August 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm #82290AnonymousInactive
Bullying is one of the most terrible moments to experience; I myself have never been bullied, however I have seen bullying events happening. When bullying events happens, bullying could be encourage by personal believes and religion.
In previous schools I used to attended, most of the bullies I saw where the Christians and evangelicals. I used to see the Christians bullying liberals, women, gays, Muslims and other people they despised.
The Christians would claim that god is the solution and if you are not a Christian, you will go to hell. The Christians claim Islam is the religion of Satan, even though both Islam and Christianity have a god.
Religion has encouraged violence in many regions of the world. Many Islamic terrorist believe that by committing suicide in achieving terrorist missions, they will go to heaven and mate with 69 female virgins. Many dictators and leaders (George W Bush, Hitler, Osama Bin ladin, Saddam Hussein) have been affiliated with a religious believe that teaches them punishment, suffering, discrimination and the brutality of war. Many right wing groups in western civilization are affiliated with Christianity, they claim that they are achieving god’s wells and believe. Christianity persuades people that women are inferior, science is a hoax, gays are sinful and the bible is the law.
Religion is the force that manipulates people in believing in a fantasy world that does not exist. Religion persuades people to bully individuals in which the bible claims threatens Christianity and their god. As religion continues to exist, religion will continue to force Christians and other religious groups to do harm to those in which the bible claims are the sinful people. Religion has been the force that has divided human civilization and manipulates people with false believes that makes people do harm to others.August 25, 2013 at 7:10 am #95839ALBKeymasterUser555net wrote:Christianity persuades people that women are inferior, science is a hoax, gays are sinful and the bible is the law.
Which part of the world are you from? Over here in England most Christians don't believe these things but have adapted to the secular society and its values that surround them and don't think women are inferior (women bishops are coming soon), accept science (including Darwin and evolution), don't think gays are sinful (there are even openly gay clergymen) or that the bible is the law. Only a few fundamentalist sects believe these things and nobody takes them seriously. In other words, over here, the battle against fundamentalist christianity has been won.Modernised christianity still preaches fairy tales about a man called Jesus who is supposed to have existed 2000 years ago in Palestine and who died and then came alive again, etc, etc and they still preach that the world we live in is not the only one but that when we die, if we've been good, we'll move on to a better one and that trying to get there is the aim of life.. This view still has to combatted. And we do. Our position on religion in general can be summed up as follows:Quote:The Socialist Party takes a non-theistic, materialist approach to things, in particular to society and social change. Religious people believe in the existence of at least one supernatural entity that intervenes in nature and human affairs. Socialists hold that we only live once. Religious people believe in some afterlife. Clearly, the two approaches are simply incompatible.August 25, 2013 at 10:31 am #95840jondwhiteParticipantQuote:Religion has been the force that has divided human civilization and manipulates people with false believes that makes people do harm to others.
If by religion, you mean irrationality (a broad definition I could accept) then I would agree. If by religion you mean existing religious organisations, I would argue class may be a bigger division.August 25, 2013 at 11:09 am #95841rodshawParticipant
Your average Christian these days is not into bullying. In fact, their attitude to God can be decidedly on the milky side. According to John Cottingham (Credo, The Times 24/08/2013), abstract debates about God miss the point of religion. When one reflects on the nature and purposes of God, he states, people are not likely to be swayed by scientific or philosophical debates about his existence, with the likes of Dawkins et al. Rather, the principal focus of religious belief is on the meaning of human existence, and how we should live our lives, not on finding proofs that God created the world. But as churches empty, it seems people are now even eschewing this approach. Cottingham concludes, ‘we need to ask whether there is any alternative purely secular framework that can nourish the sense of…objective value in human life’. Suggestions, anyone?August 25, 2013 at 1:03 pm #95842AnonymousInactive
It maybe so, that most Christian religions are attempting to be reasonable as a result of external imposition from wider society,but the minorities within the dominant religions still exert a powerful hold upon them.The Catholic church is one such example.Here is Dawkins at his most reasonable, with a most reasonable priest, Fr. George Coyne ,who still ends up with his head up his own ass,having to implore Dawkins to back off a little and cut him some slack..(My understanding).It is quite a long flash movie, so maybe save for later.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkS1B0huWX4August 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm #95843rodshawParticipantMatt wrote:It maybe so, that most Christian religions are attempting to be reasonable as a result of external imposition from wider society,but the minorities within the dominant religions still exert a powerful hold upon them.The Catholic church is one such example.Here is Dawkins at his most reasonable, with a most reasonable priest, Fr. George Coyne ,who still ends up with his head up his own ass,having to implore Dawkins to back off a little and cut him some slack..(My understanding).It is quite a long flash movie, so maybe save for later.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkS1B0huWX4
It seems Fr. Coyne is trying to say he knows it's all nonsense but can't shake off his upbringing. If he went the whole hog he'd obviously have to resign.In short, take the universe, take the laws that describe it, accept the scientific view, then wrap the God you find most satisfying around it all and firmly believe in him, even though you know he's superfluous and it's just because you've been brought up that way.But all credit to them both for standing up for so long.
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