Our chance to forswear allegiance

May 2024 Forums General discussion Our chance to forswear allegiance

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  • #243088
    Anonymous
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    And it was not an economic system, it was a social production and socialism is not going to be an economic system,( Adam Buick wrote a book about that ) it is going to be a social production. Probably, she has not read Marx’s ethnological notebooks either and the asiatic mode of production,(and Lewis anthropological book ) and the Institute of Marxism Leninism did not want to go deep into the notebooks because it described a society similar to the soviet mode of production. Many peoples who are student come to this forum to give lectures to the members of the socialist party, an institution that has been an university of socialism, and the first one to debunk Leninism, the Soviet coup and the soviet society

    #243089
    Anonymous
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    Thomas_More
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    ” Primitive communism lasted longer than capitalism and it was replaced by a new mode of production.”

    I’ll say it did! Over a MILLION years!

    And i’ll also challenge Lizzie’s “power over nature” phrase, which is in line with the CONQUEST mode of thought with which the capitalists are now destroying the very planet. It’s also in line with the bourgeois hierarchical interpretation of evolution, which evolutionary scientists and cross-species ethologists have long since debunked, as did Darwin himself: even though many Marxists still espouse it.

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    Some historians and anthropologists and paleontologists have indicated that probably it was a longer period, and the new discovery from out of Africa has indicated that human being is older than what we thought.

    In the Middle East in a pre capitalist society, Christians, Jewish and Muslim lived together in harmony and peace for more than 900 years, and they practiced their own religion without any intolerances, therefore human being lived in a social production for thousands of years and the research made by Marx and Engels are correct in regard to the primitive society

    During the XVIII workers used to say: their capitalism and our socialism, because they had more working class consciousness than the actual working class which has been totally influenced by the bourgeois ideology, probably, that particular situation forced Marx and Engels to over estimate the taking of class consciousness by the working class, they never thought that the world working class was going to support their own class enemies, and now they say: Our capitalism and our leaders

    What you have mentioned was the justification of the Doctrine of discovery to conquer other territories, ethnics groups and natural resources, and the destruction of nature made by capitalism, but natives of the America who lived under a social production preserved and took care of nature, as a historian wrote: Two different societies confronted each other, and one violently destroyed one to conquer, and Engels wrote about the violence in old society, capitalism ( and the state ) imposed itself by violence, killing, Robbery and enormous accumulation of capital from the sweat of the working class, it was not a romantic process

    #243091
    Lizzie45
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    Here, you have shown how little you know about Anthropology, and you do know anything about Historical Materialism, all societies are temporary, there is not any sociological, political and economical eternity

    And here, you have shown, as always, how you’re full of wind and piss.

    #243100
    Thomas_More
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    ” In the Middle East in a pre capitalist society, Christians, Jewish and Muslim lived together in harmony and peace for more than 900 years, and they practiced their own religion without any intolerances, therefore human being lived in a social production for thousands of years and the research made by Marx and Engels are correct in regard to the primitive society.”
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    Quite so. I think the history now with regard to distinct hominids is three million years. But of course, evolution isn’t a line of distinct compartments like train carriages; it is fluid.

    In Sicily under Norman rule, Catholics, Muslims and Greeks co-operated in church building, and churches there are consisting of each faith’s contributions to floors, murals, etc.
    Of course, Marx was also admiring of medieval Provence, ever since the Romans considered the Garden of Europe. During the century and a half of independent Occitan rule, Moslems and Jews were protected there, even during the Crusades. So were Cathars. These pacifists were actively protected by the Occitan nobles, with their lives. The same was true of Peter’s Aragon and Alfonso’s Castile, and of Moorish Spain, where a vibrant Sephardic civilization blossomed, and where refugee Cathars found safety.

    #243101
    Thomas_More
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    ” And here, you have shown, as always, how you’re full of wind and piss.”
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    Profound!

    #243113
    Anonymous
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    Lizzie45
    Participant
    Here, you have shown how little you know about Anthropology, and you do know anything about Historical Materialism, all societies are temporary, there is not any sociological, political and economical eternity

    And here, you have shown, as always, how you’re full of wind and piss.

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    I do not know why the moderator or assistant moderator of this forum permit or allow a fucking lumpen like this one in this forum, this is the discussion forum of a socialist party, similar to the old study group of some political party where certain level of respect was kept, but this is like allowing a stupid street gangster who has spent the whole life fighting, gossiping, insulting , without any respect toward other peoples, and does not make any political or sociological contributions, I grew up in a different way and women comported in a different way too

    #243119
    rodshaw
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    In my area there are the usual random houses bedecked with bunting. My granddaughter came home from school today having made a crown out of paper and wearing a union jack coronet.
    The lady across the road from us has invited my wife to a coronation party on Monday. Then on Tuesday she’s going to a coronation lunch organised by the local parish council and has been asked to wear something red, white and blue.
    Naturally I’m not being expected to join in either event.

    #243120
    davecoggan
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    One man is king only because other men stand in the relation of subjects to him. They, on the contrary, imagine that they are subjects because he is king.”
    Karl Marx, volume One, Capital, Lawrence and Wishart, 1983, P63

    #243135
    L.B. Neill
    Participant

    No! I am watching this coronation on the South of the world… ‘Serve’… really!
    Swearing is what I am muttering.

    #243136
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    I see the coronation has gone woke.
    Now it’s TM, Their Majesty, since his and her are now illegal words.
    TM armed forces. TM Ship. TM Prison, etc.

    Woke doesn’t mind capitalism. It just hates gender.

    #243137
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    I see the coronation has gone woke.
    Now it’s TM, Their Majesty, since his and her are now illegal words.
    TM armed forces. TM Ship. TM Prison, etc.

    Woke doesn’t mind capitalism. It just hates gender.

    Stunning observation, TM 🙂

    #243139
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    The first Charles wouldn’t play ball. That’s why they chopped his head off. At least he wouldn’t be a prop for the bourgeoisie.

    #243140
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    “Stunning observation, TM 🙂”

    Gramercy, madame.

    #243141
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    I put this on the off-topic thread, but it seems also apt to post here:

    #243143
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Gramercy, madame.

    Fräulein, wenn es Ihnen nichts ausmacht.

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