Noel Gallagher on Reformism

October 2024 Forums General discussion Noel Gallagher on Reformism

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    Bijou Drains
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    Just read a quote by Noel Gallagher, and if he can understand the futility of reformism, surely it’s not difficult. Commenting on Live 8, he said:

    “Correct me if I’m wrong, but are they hoping that one of these guys from the G8 is on a quick 15-minute break at Gleneagles and sees Annie Lennox singing “Sweet Dreams” and thinks, ‘Fuck me, she might have a point there, you know?’ And Keane doing “Somewhere Only We Know” and some Japanese businessman going, ‘Aw, look at him. … we should really fucking drop that debt, you know.’ It’s not going to happen, is it?”

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    imposs1904
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    If it’s referring to Live 8 (and Keane) it must be a really old quote.

    In more recent years the silly sod labelled Corbyn a communist.

    I guess Manchester Branch didn’t do any paper sales in Burnage back in the day.

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    ALB
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    Yes, the G8 became the G7 again when they booted out Russia in 2014. And their meeting in Glenragles was in 2005.

    Editorial: Thieves Kitchen at Gleneagles

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    imposs1904
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    Talking about the futility of reformism, I just stumbled across this wonderful passage from a 1914 Socialist Standard article by F. Foan:

    “It is part of the policy of the rulers in every country to encourage those who deceive and confuse the workers as to the meaning of Socialism. One section is telling us that Christianity is Socialism, another that the State must own the means of life, another that we must buyout the capitalists. These are easily seen through; the worst frauds are those who lull the workers into apathy by telling them Socialism will come by evolution, and that even now we are in the transition stages.

    Socialism can only be established by the deliberate and conscious action of the working class utterly disregarding the interests of those who oppose them. Before they can arrange or control the details of their own lives they must own and control the means of wealth production. To gain possession of these, they must first control the physical power that protects the capitalist class in their ownership. This is only possible by means of a working-class organisation that will control the political machinery. When the armed forces, through the machinery of government, are controlled by the working class, they can enter into possession of the means of wealth production without bargaining or compensation.”

    He totally nails it.

    From here:
    https://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2024/10/a-few-comparisons-1914.html

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