Italy – Another country to swing right?

November 2022 Forums General discussion Italy – Another country to swing right?

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  • #233238
    alanjjohnstone
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    Giorgia Meloni is poised to carry her hard-right Brothers of Italy (Fratelli d’Italia) party to victory in Italy’s general election on September 25, putting her in the running to become the country’s first female prime minister.

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220914-we-ve-tried-them-all-except-meloni-far-right-leader-tipped-to-become-italy-s-first-female-pm

    #233571
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    ‘God, homeland, family’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2022/sep/24/giorgia-meloni-is-a-danger-to-italy-and-the-rest-of-europe-far-right

    >>>The far right can succeed in Italy because the left has failed, exactly as in much of the world, to offer credible visions or strategies. The left asks people to vote against the right, but it lacks a political vision or an economic alternative. The left sounds elitist when it communicates, while the right has found a hypersimplified discourse: keywords, slogans, concepts reduced to the most basic, especially on migrants, from whose violence and terrorism Italians, it seems, must be saved.<<<

    #233582

    Any country that has had leftist for a long period of time, workers will vote for the right wingers

    #233648
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Giorgia Meloni has won Italy’s election, according to exit polls, and is on course to become the country’s first female prime minister and most right-wing government since World War Two.

    Turnout was low – 63.82%, almost 10 points down on 2018. Voting levels were especially poor in southern regions including Sicily.

    #233649

    It should not be a surprise. We have published several articles saying that the right wingers are winning due to the failures of the left wingers

    #233650
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    It is always assumed that economic recessions and cutbacks results in increased class consciousness and more class struggle.

    But equally workers can be drawn to simplistic solutions of blaming their problems on scapegoats

    #233680

    That is what Lenin used to say, that workers must be in hunger and misery in order to take class consciousness, and that has never taken place, the reality is that workers at the present time do not have any class consciousness and they do not care about socialism and political education, they are just looking for shortcuts and fast solution to their problems

    #233696
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Lauren Boebert, “Let freedom reign!”

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, “Congratulations to Giorgio Meloni and to the people of Italy,”

    Steve Scalise “it’s interesting to see that Europe is leading the way by throwing out socialists with conservatives—and great bold conservative women like Meloni and [U.K. Prime Minister Liz] Truss. We need to bring that kind of conservatism to the United States”

    #233697

    And they also support Putin Any so called socialist who support Putin is also supporting the Republican, the Christian right and Qanon. There are more right wingers supporting Putin than members and organizations of the left

    #234511
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The femonationalism of Meloni

    Giorgia Meloni: The Great Replacement Moves In

    #234520
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    From 1943

    The rise and fall of Mussolini

    https://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-rise-and-fall-of-mussolini-1943.html

    “…The truth is that Mussolini and his Fascist Party had outlived its popularity under the stress of economic hardship and military defeat, and could no longer fulfil the prime function of those who take on the job of harnessing the exploited working class to the capitalist State in the interest of the exploiting class. Discontent had grown and the workers would not go on believing and obeying the leaders in whom they had once placed their trust… Mussolini and his Fascists did not mould events, but were the astute exploiters of events which moulded them…”

    #234555

    The new president elected in Italy is not a fascist, and all right-wing movements can not be equated with Fascism, the leftie are the ones calling fascist any right-wing movement, or right-wing president.

    They have also created a new concept known as Post Fascism, the same idea was used in Chile by the coalition that supports President Boric, and now they are collaborating with the so-called Fascist, it is just a new ticket to obtain working-class votes.

    Mussolini and Hitler called themselves anti-imperialists like Putin calls himself an anti-imperialist and an anti-fascist, but many so-called anti-fascists are supporting him, but they support the dictatorship of the vanguard party to lead.

    The Fascists were completely defeated in Italy and Germany by another capitalist power

    #235782
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The new right-wing government begins to make its politics a reality, turning away rescue ships from its ports

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63533769

    #236194
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Meloni’s New ‘March on Rome’?

    Meloni got 26.5 percent of the vote, chosen by ‘only’ 7,300,000 voters, far from a substantial share of the Italian electorate of more than 50 million.

    If one considers those who abstained from voting as a bloc, they would be the real winner with 35 percent of the vote (more than ever before).

    So if you look at the numbers, Italians are more abstentionist than fascist.

    #236197

    Those so called fascists governments are just a propaganda of the left-wingers, within a few years the workers will elect a leftwing government when this one fail its promises. Most Italians did not vote for the so called fascists, they are governing as a minority

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