Israel, Gaza and the realities of capitalism

March 2024 Forums General discussion Israel, Gaza and the realities of capitalism

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    Anonymous
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    SocialistPunk wrote:
    The usual bullshit of leading the masses to freedom.

     As always the left wingers end up supporting one side of the capitalist class, calling Fascism to what is not Fascism, supporting all kind of  conspiracy theories, and that the masses needs a good leader, and a vanguard party  to guide them to the promised land. The blind guiding the blinds. They have never learned any lessons from past history, they always repeat the same mistakes, they suffer of  historical amnesia .it is the same crap all the time. Any group, any personality which departs from the experiences of the Soviets,  the Bolsheviks, and the Leninist will always make incorrect analysis, and their conclusions are going to be wrong. A Palestinian state is the continuation of the same crap as the Israeli state, a creation of a new capitalist state, or the legalization of the economical exploitation of the Palestinian which already exists.  Hamas wants to take a bath on gold and petroleum from the Gaza strip in the same way as the Israeli capitalist and the western powers, and the left wingers talking about the defense of the Palestinian homeland, they do not even own their  cemeteries. They are just a bunch of nationalists, wrapped around the flag of false socialism, even more, all the Leninist parties, are just nationalist parties of the places where they are formed, or built by the Cadres. Leninism is still a  dangerous poison for the working class of the world

    #102432
    alanjjohnstone
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    Good read by Israeli peace activist Uri Avnerihttp://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/08/hamas-and-israeli-paranoia/

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    This war has created temporarily an unlikely coalition of Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority.
    #102433
    Anonymous
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    alanjjohnstone wrote:
    Good read by Israeli peace activist Uri Avnerihttp://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/08/hamas-and-israeli-paranoia/

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    This war has created temporarily an unlikely coalition of Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority.

     As we said several years ago: The creation of the State of Israel will increase the anti-semitism* around the world, it is going to be the most unsecure place for the Jews. It also proves what Marx said on the Jewish Question   PD If the Semites come from Sem, the Arabs are also semites

    #102434
    alanjjohnstone
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    Another fine article to readhttp://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25447-the-war-over-the-war-israel-gaza-and-american-protestYMS has mentioned that some can over-egg the pudding by claiming UK and US policy is determined by the Israeli/Zionist/Jewish lobby. This quote i think supports his view.

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    "Khalidi in an April 2013 talk for his book, Brokers of Deceit: How the US Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East, that the Palestinian struggle is just not vital to the geopolitical interests of the United States. "To suggest that the Israel lobby has some kind of arcane influence on American policy in the Middle East overall is a terrible mistake," he said. "On issues of strategic importance to the United States, the power of the Israel Lobby was shown to be minimal. On Palestine, it has enormous weight. But on issues of strategic importance . . . like peace between Egypt and Israel, which was crucial in the eyes of American policy makers over three administrations, Nixon, Ford, Carter to American Cold War objectives, there was absolutely no hesitation in pushing, pressuring and forcing Israel to do things that American policy makers wanted."
    #102435
    SocialistPunk
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    Unfortunately there are still many nutjobs, especially in the US, who cling to the idea of a global Illuminati type Zionist  conspiracy.

    #102436
    rodshaw
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    Meanwhile, in the film industry, Penelope Cruz and her husband are being accused of anti-semitism for denouncing the Israeli actions.

    #102437
    Anonymous
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    rodshaw wrote:
    Meanwhile, in the film industry, Penelope Cruz and her husband are being accused of anti-semitism for denouncing the Israeli actions.

     Like the Yankis, anyone that is against the killing and massacres of the US is anti-American,  and American is a person that is born in any of the Continents of the Americas including the Caribbean islands and most peoples do not even know where the name came from, and Latin American is know denomination because the Latin are the peoples from France, Portugal, and SpainAnybody who is against the Arabs is also anti-semite if we follow the fairy tales of the Bible because the Semites came from one of the sons of Noah named Sem, and the original Hebrew were from Africa, and there are African Jews

    #102438
    alanjjohnstone
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    Rare that our media ever presents a clear coherent spokesperson. It is left to the fringe news websites to do. Chomsky interview on Democracy Nowhttp://www.alternet.org/world/noam-chomsky-israels-assault-gaza-hideous-atrocity?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

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