Endless Feuds between theists and atheists:

July 2024 Forums General discussion Endless Feuds between theists and atheists:

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  • #81401
    Anonymous
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    Here is a link to my article in American Atheist Magazine: 

     

    http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/theo/atheist.html

     

    Feel free to share it with all who might be interested.

    #88639
    ALB
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    I am a scientist, not a theologian. As a university student in Poland from 1949 to 1957, I was an aggressive atheist and subsequently became a member of the communist party. I am now a theist, believing in God and attending a synagogue.

    Ok, but what about the endless feuds that go on between theologians? How, for instance, can they settle this one: Was Jesus (if he existed) (a) the son of a god, (b) merely a prophet or (c) the son of a Roman centurion? There’s no way. These are, however, rival hypotheses that can be tested using the scientific method.

    #88640
    Anonymous
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    Funny as people get older and closer to the big box they turn back to religion. Churches are packed with old folk. I think its hedging your bets a little……..

    #88641
    J Surman
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    SussexSocialist wrote:
     I think its hedging your bets a little……..

    I think it’s hedging your bets a lot! However, how many others, like me, can’t even be bothered to read the article offered to us? If we wanted any more reading/opinion on the matter we would seek it out. I, for one, have had enough decades to mull this over and am perfectly happy with my own conclusions. I haven’t heard anything new or remotely interesting on this topic for a very long time. I just wanted to register my boredom. Yawnnnnnnnn.

    #88642
    Anonymous
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    Couldn’t agree more, Janet., but I’d go further as you’d expect :)  The motive for posting the article on this forum appears to be no less than a blatant case of self-promulgation.

    #88636
    Anonymous
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     I couldn’t be bothered with the whole article.  The first few paragraphs were enough.  Conflict between theists and athiests does not need a resolution it needs a result.  Athiests 10:Theists 0 is the only one acceptable.  Theological nonsense has to be hammered into the ground and concreted over!

    #88637
    Anonymous
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    Former communist my arse

    #88638
    alanjjohnstone
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    An interesting related article i happened upon todayhttp://www.alternet.org/belief/156007/do_people_get_less_religious_when_societies_grow_more_egalitarian/?page=entire “…There’s a heavy body of research showing that the more stress and uncertainty people face, the more likely they are to engage in what psychologists call “magical thinking”: superstition, prayer, belief in the supernatural. In 2008, Jennifer Whitson and Adam Galinsky published a paper in Science demonstrating that when you remove the amount of control people have over their situation, they tend to engage more in “illusory pattern perception,” which is the psychological process that creates belief in the supernatural. Other research has shown the real-world effects of this psychological tendency, showing, for instance, that people living in war zones tend to engage in more magical thinking, such as carrying lucky charms or believing in the power of prayer, than those who don’t…… Religion has a lot more tradition and power behind it than everyday superstitions, but psychologically, the process can be similar. People look to supernatural means to exert control over situations they can’t influence through real-world means…….The less control they feel over their own destiny, the more tempting it is to conjure up a God who can save you in a society that doesn’t bother…belief in God gives them a sense of control they lack in their real-world lives……Atheists who aren’t content to simply not believe themselves, but who also want to increase the secularization of a society and the numbers of atheists, need to get behind a politically progressive agenda…Religion’s grip on power is tightly entwined with the economic misfortunes of the people. If we want to build a more secular society, the first step is building a more equitable one….”

    #88635
    ALB
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    The theme of July Standard, out tomorrow or Friday, is irrational ideas, conspiracy theories and the paranormal rather than religion. I think, these days in times of stress and uncertainty, more people tend to turn to these (conspiracy theories, astrology, gambling, etc) rather than to religion.

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