Britain’s place in the world

October 2020 Forums General discussion Britain’s place in the world

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    Young Master Smeet
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    https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster80/lob80-long-march-to-freeport.pdf

    This article suggests that many politicians are grossly overestimating Britain’s economic clout in the world (and, arguably, that it is only through Britain’s position in the world financial system that Britain can claim any substantial clout at all).  This structural position may account for Britain’s behaviour over the last few years: if voters had been told that Britain was only an averagely economically active country, would they have gone for Brexit?

    This suggests that a return to being Pirate Island may be on the cards.

    #207362
    ALB
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    Yes I suppose you can interpret Brexit as the UK being relegated from the Premier Division to the Championship and, if it doesn’t do to well there, to the Third Division North.

    On the other hand, like that other state with a former empire, France, the UK has maintained powerful armed forces which allow it to punch above its economic weight. Though delusions of grandeur go with it. I imagine China sees the UK as an island off the European landmass a bit like Taiwan is to the Chinese mainland.

    #207372
    Young Master Smeet
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    There is a space there for a critique of imperialism, if only acknowledging that Britain, the US (& France) ae punching above their economic weight and gaining commercial advantage through the levels of the world system and force of arms…

    #207911
    Young Master Smeet
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    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/10/britain-end-history

    A fascinating article, which I think says a lot about where Britain is now: German reunification and a unified Europe has left Britain out in the cold: the French thought they could use Europe to ensnare Germany, but in the end, is this the German century?

    Will Britain pivot to Russia after Brexit?  After all, the 19th C. also saw Britain trying to use Russia to contain and counter Germany …

    #207917
    alanjjohnstone
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    The Brit is still opposed to migrant workers and their xenophobia

    Two-thirds of voters believe that EU nationals should have to apply to come to Britain rather than enjoy free movement, a new survey shows.

    As many as 58% said that it should be neither relatively easy nor relatively difficult for people from France to come to the UK, while much the same was true of people from Poland (58%), Pakistan (55%), and Australia (53%).

    #207919
    L.B. Neill
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    MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN

    Since Brexit we are calling for expressions of interest into imperial might!

    WE ARE BUT A TINY NATION

    And this new career opportunity is for all those who aspire to our great colonial past!

    APPLY NOW

    Foreigners need not apply.

    (See our bias exemption number approving the right to refuse entry and the right to refuse migrants to stay)

    IF YOU ARE THE RIGHT CANDITATE!

    Please send your CV to the Ministry of Xenophobia

    NO BRETON WILL BE REFUSED (no socialist need apply…disclaimer)

    This is how it sounds to me- selling the empire. And to a bias and narrow audience sample (those who fill it in and express their bias and nationalism; and those who walk past it [polls!])). If this was an add, someone should express an objection. To me indigenous workers are being encouraged to discriminate against host workers (should be no division and no antagonism between workers).

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    #207939
    ALB
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    “NO BRETON WILL BE REFUSED”.  You mean those people in berets selling onions from their bikes? I suppose that as relatives of the Ancient Britons they have more right to live in Britain than the Anglo-Saxon invaders.

    #207946
    L.B. Neill
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    Okay- Bretons aside: The Celts then, or maybe be particular… the…

    NO OTHER PREVIOUS APPLICANTS NEEDS APPLY (and I hope it becomes less definable to say who is, and who is not applicable to live in Britain- all not some

    Hard to define such a thing as Britain,

    It would be better defined as part of Europe, as part of a global wide community, as part of an ecology- and not a gated village. I did not say ecological galactic system- but why stop there.

    A world without enclaves and without ethnic differentiation is so desired right now.

    ALB, I like onions, and have sold them: and along with wine in a beer market- I had to peddle so much harder to break through-  glad my early work experience gave me that stamina

    🙂

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