Africa and the reality of capitalism

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    Sympo
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    "But underdevelopment will surely persist if the existing capitalist relations of production are maintained, and if the dependence of Africa on international capital continues. Therefore, the overturning of the existing relations of production is necessary for overcoming underdevelopment. Socialism is inevitable if development is desirable."What does "undevelopment" in this context mean?Doesn't the SPGB often talk about how Tsarist Russia was (among other things) too underdeveloped for Socialism?How can Socialism be established if Capitalism isn't well developed in large parts of Africa?I'm having a discussion with a non-socialist and I would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions, apologies if the questions are a bit odd

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    alanjjohnstone
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    My way of thinking is that a hinterland may well remain undeveloped but urbanisation has proletarianised a mostly migrant population from the rural areas. And they are now becoming the most populous partsI think St Petersburg experienced the same situation with peasants moving to the city to work in the giant Kirov works.As we always said, not every part of the planet requires to become capitalist …only the economically and politically dominant regions…

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    Due to the uneven development of capitalism around the world, and the late arrival of capitalism many countries around the earth will show a certain level of underdevelopment, but despite that particular situation, the capitalist mode of production prevails on them. It is very different to the situation in Russia whereas capitalism was not the prevailing mode of production, capitalism was not underdeveloped, it is not a capitalist society, it was a semi-feudal society.The book written by Lenin  which is known as The  Development of Capitalism in Russia is a clear indication of that particular situationhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1899/devel/

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