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Just put in what you want to search for in the top right hand field of this page. Never heard of ‘combers’.
Yeah, that’s why children are in danger of getting snake bit, savaged by dogs or picking up parasites that make them blind – really healthy. All this is so much romantic twaddle.
You are a master of the non sequitur Mr. Oswald – just as nobody here has claimed superiority as a species I did not claim that we were successful as a species; merely that we have the chance to become so. Human societies are not just ‘ what humans do’ but rather what we do creates our humanity. Again sarcastic statements like ‘Glad you’re enjoying the class struggle. You must be very happy’ do not help your case.
‘Tool – making’ is what makes us human. It has enabled our consciousness to accelerate at unprecedented speed to a point where we can use technology instead of it, and the class struggle it gives rise to, using and defining us. As I said we represent nature becoming aware of its self, something unique as far as we know and nature recognises no superior or inferior species – just successful and unsuccessful ones. Please don’t insult us again with your usual accusations – it just gives the impression, Mr. Oswald, that as well as self loathing you also go in for self righteousness.
It would seem that John Oswald is happy with insults directed towards his own species but not with those directed at other species. Is that called ‘inverted speciesism’?
I’ll bet L Bird has donned his mask and gloves even in the absence of a mass vote on the existence or not of the virus.
Robbo, perhaps the reason is that the virus doesn’t respect wealth and the 1% are as likely to catch it as us proles.
‘I’ll just remain baffled.’
Yep, that about sums up your inability to understand politics L Bird. No doubt you will regard that as another insult but the evidence is clear. ALB and robbo have made a clear and coherent explanation but you cannot, or will not, concur. I can only speculate why you are like this time and again. Perhaps you’re just argumentative by nature? Again I can only admire comrades who take the time to try and communicate with you. Is it ever possible that you can be mistaken? Look to yourself and either help us in the struggle or stop wasting our time.
Kaz – you don’t seem to have any conception of the change in mass consciousness that could put us in a political position you envisage above. No one will be interested in playing the bourgeois Westminster games let alone worrying about a ‘socialist prime minister’. The paradigm shift will make all that nonsense anachronistic.
I have always believed that the ‘culture industry’ is much more important in disseminating reactionary ideology than the upfront political propaganda of the media. The insidious violent and idealist/authoritarian narratives of most films, digital games and graphic novels breed a mixture of cynicism and a belief in leaders who can resolve problems through violence.
‘These ideas may cause us to change our minds and make decisions that alter the trajectory of our world”
But, of course, only if they are in accord with the material conditions of life. Men make history but only within the cultural and economic context within which they find themselves. Historical trajectory makes some ideas practical and others idealistic and/or ideological. This differentiates human history from that of natural evolution because our culture creates the world in which we live. I understand John’s anger at ‘human arrogance’ but we must not throw out the baby with the bathwater and occasionally celebrate what our intelligence as a species has achieved in such a short time. We are a very young species and I prefer to concentrate on our potential future rather than our destructive past.
John wrote:‘We are star stuff, but so is your cat; and the entirety of human history and concerns will be gone in a puff of cosmic time just as surely as the maggots in a bowl of stale food.’ and ‘However, we will eventually disappear as a form of existence in no longer than a cosmic second, together with the sum total of all our history and achievements, as will the Earth and this solar system.’
These statements are both valid within the traditional concept of time but this conception is also, along with mind and reality, subject to possible profound revision the more we understand nature (the universe). Is it possible that the mind/reality duality can be resolved by seeing ourselves and our understanding (something that cats and maggots do not exhibit) as an attempt by the universe to become conscious of itself? As you say we are stardust and so we are nature. The delusions of ideology have prevented us from this realization and socialism will finally liberate consciousness from its dualistic egocentric prison (hopefully). This kind of speculation may well frustrate some socialists but such reasoning is preferable to passively accepting cultural norms and helps us exercise our intellect. Ideology tells us what to think and philosophy informs us how to think.
All of Marx’s work was framed within the dialectical philosophical tradition. Don’t forget that science had its origins in natural philosophy. The truth is that without these inherited traditions he could not have transcended elements within them all. We believe socialism to be the resolution of the class struggle and so ending the need for ideology but even after the revolution we will still ponder the questions raised by this thread in terms of mind, consciousness and reality and these concepts remain firmly within the philosophical tradition.
