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Our 1990 pamphlet Ecology and Socialism states

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Future generations will rightly regard the decision to utilise nuclear power on a widening scale for electricity generation, let alone for military purposes, as an act of folly, especially as right from the start it was known that there was no satisfactory solution to the problem of disposing of the radioactive waste that inevitably results from the process.

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The eventual choice must be left for the majority to decide after a full consideration of all the facts, including any possible side-effects.

It's not clear whether this is a choice between renewable energy sources or including non-renewable ones.

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Libcom Further Reading Guide on Sciencehttp://libcom.org/library/science-further-reading-guide

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What is it?

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Thanks

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The latest political concept from the US is "ground game"https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=salon+trump+ground+game+field+officesIt is the idea that number of field offices determines election / political successPretty sure this runs contrary to one of our principles (that political success isn't based on class interests)Anyway Trump is said to be destined to lose for lack of field offices.Not sure this holds up historically …

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This has taken place now so any reports that anyone can find would be interesting to share here.

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There shouldn't really be secrets in the WSM companion parties.

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Issue 5 is outhttps://antinational.org/en/kittens-5 I still want to know how gegend kapital differ from us, maybe I will email them again.

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ALB wrote:

Steve-SanFrancisco-UserExperienceResearchSpecialist wrote:

What about passing a single law that said corporations and business were not people legally (in the USA that means overturning citizens united, AFAIK).and didn't have the rights of people. this is something that might pass in the US, and people keep keep trying).

This would be tantamount to abolishing limited liability. Capitalism used to exist without this (until the middle of the 19th century), which meant that capitalists were only individual persons or partnerships of persons who were wholly liable for their business's debts. If it went bankrupt they lost everything including their homes, their personal possessions and savings and could end up in a debtors prison. Then capitalists really were risk-takers !

Those were the days ha!

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But it also shows that a capitalist company or corporation is a legal construct. Anarchists and other "direct actionists" don't realise this and advocate taking and holding workplaces while these constructs still have the backing of the state. They seem to think that capitalists possess means of production in the same way that they possess their clothes and their tooth brushes and that all that needs to be done is to organise and use brute force to take these off them.Socialists are more realistic (and more direct). We advocate winning control of political power (through elections) and using it to end the legal status of these corporations. Then they no longer have the protection of the state and in fact no longer exist. As YMS points out, then there is no obstacle to the socialist-minded  worker majority taking possession of the workplaces that formerly belonged to the corporations.

Not a word used these days, but I would say that seizing the workplace not the state, is the delusion of "syndicalists" (deleonists? and autonomists) rather than "anarchists" and "direct actionists".

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To calm those of a nervous disposition, we here are not followers of any current political party or grouping, on the (Groucho) Marxian principle of never joining any organisation that would have us as a member.

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mcolome1 wrote:

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I thought they were talking about the one used by comrades in North America which I was under the impression was independent before becoming a Google Group although in the Bernie topic an e-mail list is mentioned.

That forum is only for members of the WSPUS. They should have created a public one a long time ago, but it looks like nobody wants to do that. I do not know what they expect to obtain new members when nobody knows about them

It would still be nice to have a link to the private North American World Socialist forum even if just to see what platform they use.

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Is it democratically controlled and commonly owned?

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mcolome1 wrote:

Pure  bourgeois crap

Hear hear. At least the male Trumps or the male Clintons of this world haven't yet argued the "defence" of "group cohesion".

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Good work. This is something we should do more often.

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