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More reviews of Stedman-JonesNYThttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/books/review/karl-marx-gareth-stedman-jones.htmlWSJhttp://www.wsj.com/articles/karl-marx-gareth-stedman-jones-1475164698SMHhttp://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/karl-marx-review-gareth-stedman-jones-on-the-development-of-his-theories-20161020-gs6ps0.htmlThe Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/aug/14/karl-marx-greatness-and-illusion-review-gareth-stedman-jonesthe Economisthttp://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21705665-value-marx-21st-century-false-consciousnessNew Republichttps://newrepublic.com/article/136339/prophet-lossProspecthttp://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/soho-revolutionary-karl-marx-labour-party-jeremy-corbyn-john-mcdonnellIrish Independenthttp://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/book-reviews/the-hijacking-of-karl-marxs-true-vision-34977456.htmland podcast from ABChttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/marx/7899994
The supporters you get for a minimum programme as long as it leaves the ruling class in charge, will be bought off with these reforms by any desperate ruling class. Then withdrawn down the line, all in all, massive waste of time and energy putting workers off "socialism" for another generation. Unlikely? Look at the SPA.
Ben Watson was associated with Association of Musical MarxistsKevin Anderson was going to write A Peoples History of the Russian Revolution at one stage but I never heard anything more.
If Trump wins, Democrats owe an apology to Berniehttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.htmlor should Bernie have run as a third party candidate?
LBird wrote:jondwhite wrote:Incidentally Ukip have gone all Lbird on ushttp://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/suzanne-evans-accused-of-facism-for-demanding-democratic-control-of-judges_uk_58203e67e4b0c2e24aafe6ab?ir=UK+Politics&utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&utm_hp_ref=ukComes to something when the 'famously democratic' SPGB is politically to the right of UKIP!The SPGB won't have 'judges' under democratic control – they have an Engelsist, materialist, ideology that tells them that only an elite can be a 'judge' of 'reality'.Otherwise, the SPGB would allow workers to democratically decide what constitutes 'reality', but the membership here keeps making it plain that such democratic control would never be allowed by any SPGB that they are a part of!One fine day, jdw, the nature of this problem will dawn with you.
I'm open minded on electing experts or at least my mind isn't made up. However, correct me if I am wrong, but there is unlikely to be high court judges in socialism let alone elected ones.
alanjjohnstone wrote:Good of WW to publish our letters, and i note Vin got one in too. (We might suggest a full article one day if we ask very nicely…perhaps next year for the Russian Revolution.)If the latest Weekly Worker is carrying 5 contributions by members or supporters, should we be selling copies of this issue at head office? Presumably a copy will be acquired for the archives or would doing so be redundant in the digital age?
Wikipedia states the rigging in North Korea ishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea
Quote:A voter may cross off the candidate's name to vote against him or her, but must do so with a red pen next to the ballot box in sight of electoral officials, or there may be a separate ballot box for 'no' votes.[14] Many North Korean defectors claim such an act of defiance is too risky to attempt.However there are international election monitoring bodies to record blatant rigginghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_monitoringso rigging isn't necessarily the problem with delegate / representative democracy any more than OMOV / direct democracy.Incidentally Ukip have gone all Lbird on ushttp://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/suzanne-evans-accused-of-facism-for-demanding-democratic-control-of-judges_uk_58203e67e4b0c2e24aafe6ab?ir=UK+Politics&utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&utm_hp_ref=uk
Don't even the North Korea (DPRK) and Cuban one-party totalitarian dictatorships use some sort of delegate democracy?
ALB wrote:In that election Eugene Debs was the candidate of the old Socialist Party of America. Pity there's no a recording of his rhetoric. For instance: Even so, speed the day when another US presidential candidate will utter the words above.this happened in this current campaignhttp://www.folkways.si.edu/bernard-sanders/eugene-v-debs-trade-unionist-socialist-revolutionary-1855-1926/oral-history-biography/album/smithsonian
