Democratic Socialists added 1000 members in 2 days following election

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  • #85166
    jondwhite
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    #123190
    Anonymous
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    These left winger groups do not learn their historical lesson. They still continue talking about the old Stalinist conception of the popular front, peoples front., etc, etc.  They made front with the  bourgeois of several countries, and they called it peoples or popular front. At the end, workers were collaborating with their own rulers

    #123191
    jondwhite
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    The popular front is a comment from the comments not the article. What is DSA a front for?

    #123192
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    1000 new members is impressive but remember that is more than like website sign-ups with subs paid by pay-pal and not necessarily 1000 class-conscious activists.You yourself reported the decline in Left Unity…And Momentum is just as controlled by the party bureaucrat machine as the Sanders Our Revolution, with the grassroots mere foot-soldiers for protest marches.I did consider the spontaneous and mostly unplanned protests promising bu remind folk of our blog cautionary warning that we do need organisation – but proper organisation. http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2016/11/president-donald-trump-and-fight-back.html

    #123193
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Aren't they the nearest equivalent in the US to the Labour Party here?http://www.dsausa.org/about_dsa

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    As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people.

    So a 1000 extra active reformists. Compare with our position that

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    As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, we campaign directly for socialism and so help the emergence of the majority socialist understanding without which capitalism cannot be ended and socialism established.

    And don't they normally support the Democratic Party?

    #123194
    Anonymous
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    jondwhite wrote:
    The popular front is a comment from the comments not the article. What is DSA a front for?

    A front for reformism and for reformistsThe left only goes in high gear when there is a political, or economical juncture, and then,  different groups, or personalities  of different tendencies will collide and form a popular front to fight against imperialism and neo-liberalism, and when the juncture vanish, they will go into low gear and possible they will vanish too.This is just another reformist left wing party in the same line  of thoughts as Bernie Sanders,  which is  in high gear due to the election of Donald Trump, and probably they have obtained new 1000 reformists that are in high gear in the political turmoil created by the Donald Trump election.They are based on the same old Leninist tactic of having a minimum program to fight for reformism, and to put  more patches on the capitalist society, they can add 10,000 more members and capitalism will not be replaced for a socialist society. There are many groups like this one in the USA including the CPUSA who was supporting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton 

    #123195
    jondwhite
    Participant

    Another surge in membership for the DSAhttp://inthesetimes.com/article/19795/socialisms-trump-bump-democratic-socialists-america

    #123196
    jondwhite
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    via the spotters mailing list

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    The Delete Your Account podcast recently had on representatives of Democratic Socialists of America and the Party for Socialism and Liberation to talk about their respective orgs: https://deleteyouraccount.libsyn.com/
    #123197
    imposs1904
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    Someone just mentioned on facebook that there was 500 in attendance at a DSA meeting in  Brooklyn last night. I know some might say 'but that's Brooklyn' but I remember a few years back that they would be lucky to get 20-25 at a meeting in Brooklyn.Different times.

    #123198
    Anonymous
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    It is only a poltiical juncture produced by the campaign of Bernie Sanders

    #123199
    jondwhite
    Participant

    From 6,500 members in May 2016 to 14,000 members in November 2016 to 16,000 members todayhttp://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/02/americans-joining-socialist-groups-trump-170205083615002.html

    #123200
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    So why is the real socialist party not growing? Are we doing something wrong? 

    #123201
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Actually we are getting more enquiries than before from the US via http://www.worldsocialism.org

    #123202
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Vin wrote:
    So why is the real socialist party not growing? Are we doing something wrong? 

    Most workers like to hear the sound of the bells of refprmism. The SPUV has more than 3 millions members

    #123203
    jondwhite
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    jondwhite wrote:
    From 6,500 members in May 2016 to 14,000 members in November 2016 to 16,000 members todayhttp://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/02/americans-joining-socialist-groups-trump-170205083615002.html

    Also Rolling Stone cover it toohttp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-democratic-socialists-are-building-on-bernies-momentum-w465452

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