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Robert Griffiths of the CPB/ Morning Star commented on Channel 4 News herehttp://bcove.me/hqjkkqwkviahttp://www.channel4.com/news/slave-house-couple-lambeth-leaders-1970s-political-cult
The CWO reported the IP (is this a CWO affiliate?) being "banned" (and used this term) from events without specifying which ones or dateshttp://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2009-07-01/midlands-discussion-forum-meeting"… The ICC and IP apparently have (in France) banned each other from their public meetings. …"
If true, what was suspected to be a sect turns out to be a cult. For me a sect is a group that puts the interests of the group above anything outside the group. A cult is something that denies the validity of anything outside the group.The question is, how do you stop groups turning into sects or cults? The organisational structure? The members?
As I posted the following on libcomhttp://libcom.org/forums/general/spgb-how-they-want-achieve-socialism-08092013#comment-527785 The American companion party WSPUS "In the 1951 W.S.P. Conference held in Detroit, the following motion, that stirred up a hornet's nest, was carried: " Under capitalism, where the State machinery is in the hands of the capitalist class, the ballot can be used for the purpose of measuring the developing socialist consciousness of the working class. When this consciousness reaches a majority stage the ballot can become the revolutionary weapon for the introduction of socialism. If, at the time the socialist majority is obtained, material conditions preclude the use of the ballot, then this majority will use whatever other means are at hand to introduce socialism." " As reported in Forum July 1953.
I would hope socialists wouldn't have to call themselves 'libertarian' to permit questions to be asked without issuing a ban.
The SPGB is closer to Lafargue's critique of work than to syndicalism's organisation of industry.Libertarian socialism is not a term used consistently. I've heard it used to justify autonomism, basically do what you want, (squatting, guerilla gardening, etc.). I've even heard it used to justify organisational practices of a broad church approach where members funding the party have no coherence (agreeing on nothing but free to express this), and where a leadership minority make the actual decisions.The SPGB aim at capturing political power, this is the most effective approach. Unlike the ruling-class and their wanabees (many political currents, left and right), civil liberties such as freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of assembly, freedom of organisation (including at work), are freedoms the SPGB are not seeking to reverse.
Are there other contacts who want to meet locally (or online via group teleconferencing such as Skype)?If so you can begin with discussions, then more formal talks, then guest speakers (via Skype)?
admice wrote:"Feminists obviously attract more female members than male, but also environmental groups and animal rights groups attract a more proportionate composition (reflective of current society) than other political groups." O, I'm gonna leave you guys and go join the fuzzy kitties group.At least check out these guys, lol, http://antinational.org/en/tag/kittens
They have done their first podcasthttp://www.internationalsocialistnetwork.org/index.php/downloads/282-bradford-leeds-isn-premiere-podcast
Good question, there were seemingly similar thinkers in the Labour Party going back decades. I'm thinking particularly in the 1960s and 1970s who wrote about the term. There may be something on them, but the full archive is not uploaded yet.
