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But how to oppose it without taking sides in an internal capitalist dispute? There’s also our principle that a socialist party should campaign neither for or against a reform (but only for socialism). Vote Remain in referendum on a personal basis? A socialist couldn’t vote for the LibDems could they, especially as their tactics are likely to provoke a no-deal Brexit? Or any other capitalist party for that matter.
Yes I agree that we can’t “take sides” in the sense of joining the Brexit party or standing in the street dressed as an EU flag. But I think the anti-nationalist and socialism argument should be made clearly that there is nothing for the working class to gain from Brexit, and that the forms of Brexit that are being put forward are an assault on immigrant (and emigrant) labour and something that will threaten peoples family life, much like the windrush saga. From that, if there where another referendum, people can make there own mind up how to vote.
But with regards to the voting strategy, in absence of a mass socialist movement, it’s of little significance how socialists do or don’t vote. I think there are some situations where tactical voting *against* something could be a sensible option. In this context is voting Lib-dem or Labour that? Probably not.
ALB Wrote – “But why should we take sides?”
Because a Brexit that puts limits on freedom of movement and makes it harder for people to come into the UK will have a negative effect on the thousands of people who have trans-national family lives. Reason enough to oppose it. But of course it all depends on what “Brexit” actually comes to mean..
I thought this video, also on the MHI, wasn’t too bad. If it hasn’t been mentioned before:
“However, capitalist reality is keeping large populations in poverty and so uneducated, and this in turn results in those populations’ proliferation.”
But the birth rate has already rapidly fallen *the world over*. Population is increasing not because more people are being born but because more people are living longer.
Watch this film for up to date information:
“It is wishful thinking to say that humans are any different from fruit flies in their reproductive patterns in societies that do not provide sufficient education. Where is the scientific basis for such assertions?”
Where’s the scientific basis for saying that human reproductive patterns *do* follow this pattern? Which historical examples can you give?
Aeon magazine only takes artilces written by people with proven specialist knowledge in their field.
I don’t know what specialist knowledge this “schekn_itrch” is claiming to have.
“Why the carrying capacity of the earth is not fixed”
https://aeon.co/ideas/the-earths-carrying-capacity-for-human-life-is-not-fixed
“world population is well beyond carrying capacity of the planet.”
Ok. So who do you suggest we bump off first?
As an introduction, these short Youtube videos could be worth a watch, along with the other written articles on the website:
https://kapitalism101.wordpress.com/law-of-value-the-series/
Goes into more than “Das Kapital” territory, and probably can’t be described as concise, but I found this series of lectures on Marx useful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh1_dJaBHMMaceTU6V-cvoQ/videos
I think you are asking good questions.Try this:https://libcom.org/files/kliman.pdf
There was a failed attempt at reading I I Rubin’s book on this forum. That should be one you should look through..
Sympo wrote:Do you believe that the SNLT of a widget can never be figured out?It’s never going to be a fixed magnitude, we are dealing with a dynamic process
If a commodity doesn’t sell then the labour that has gone into producing it hasn’t been socially necessary.
MBellemare wrote:Anarchism, Now! Anarchism, Forever! (p.s. you should go to bed, cause you head must hurt terrribly after this DJP…haha)Pure scholarship. Thanks
MBellemare wrote:the law of value, in a post-industrial age, the economic system is totally rigged according to the arbitrary, fanciful, whims of capitalists, that is, the artificial and arbitrary fabrication of value, price and wage.So why is their a falling rate of profit, economic crisis and companies going bust?Thanks for writing your reply but I doubt I’ll have time to discuss further. What you have written doesn’t seem to have more explanatory power…
