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Pity that the Trots in Workers’ Liberty who state “We are yet to see whether Labour Transformed will successfully develop the internal democracy, strategy, and routine of holding leaders to account” can’t work out that if you can’t hold leaders to account (if you are a follower, you follow) and the only way to ensure democracy in an organisation is not to have leaders!
Looking at the bright side of Labour’s election defeat. If the press are to believed and Corbyn is a Marxist revolutionary, it’s quite encouraging that nearly 1/3 of those who voted voted for him. At least it shows that the terms Marxist and revolutionary don’t put some people off.
Or take a leaf out of Ian Smith’s book and declare UDI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia%27s_Unilateral_Declaration_of_Independence
Or De Valera and Cathal Brugha, more worryingly!
The exit polls suggest Labour has been heavily defeated and the Tories will have a substantial majority in parliament
I have raised this issue but what could be the knock on consequences for the SPGB?
I think we need to redouble our efforts to make inroads to the 1,000s of disappointed labour activists who genuinely thought that Corbyn, et al was going to bring about change. I know several who are starting to question reformism, we need to get out there and show to them that, despite all the well meaning promises, reformism is an cul de sac of capitalism.
I genuinely feel this is a huge opportunity for the Party generally
“I see Steve Coleman our ex-comrade is involved in this project. According to Steve, talking of this gadget: “We think that this has potential to provide vital democratic feedback from the audience to the politicians and broadcasters.”
How are the mighty fallen?
decent bit of coverage in Wales on Line: (you have to scroll down a little way)
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/cardiff-central-general-election-candidates-16891903
Well done Brian
Sadly I agree, it seems to me that rather seeing a defeat for Corbyn as a defeat for Reformism, they see it as a defeat for progress. The annoying thing is that I know loads of people, and I’m sure others do as well, who agree with the party case but say that because the numbers are small we lack credibility, but the numbers are small because fools like them keep voting for Corbyn or Foot or even Blair. If in even one constituency we could gain a share of the vote above 5%, I genuinely think the snowball effect could start.
Lib Dem politics in a nutshell, let’s be nice to everyone and if everyone else is nice it will all be nice. Effectively that means keep things as they are and tie a few bonny bows around the trees in the local park.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time on the Have your Say part of BBC news over the last few days, They have links at the bottom of some news stories allowing you to comment on that particular story. As it’s an election they can’t delete any references to particular political parties, so it is possible to highlight the fact that there are real Marxists and real Socialists standing in the election. I don’t know how much people will actually see as it’s fairly fast moving and there is a work limit, but I’ve managed to get about 50 posts on line. If other party members were regularly posting on it it might create a bit of momentum (sorry I couldn’t think of another word). There are also lots of frothing at the mouth Tories who cry Marxist at everything, so it gives us a chance to point out that Corbyn et al are not Marxists, but that we are. I’ve managed to name check the constituencies a couple of times as well.
It appears the BBC are publishing all the manifestos of each political party. Is this something we should insist on being included in?
Hi Brian
I know it’s early days yet, but if you want me to come down and help out in the final few days before the election, I should be able to get down for the Tuesday to the Thursday of the election week. I can sort out my own digs as I have a few mates in the area, etc. One of my mates (I think you met Richard when I was down there a while back) is quite sympathetic to the party and I might be able to get him roped into doing a bit of work as well.
Let me know if I can help
YFS
Tim
Personally, I don’t think we should dismiss any kind of activity that any member, or group of members chooses to undertake.
I think for years the party has looked for some kind of magic bullet that would be the great recruiting sergeant for socialism, whether that be the internet, elections, the Standard, debates. However, fact is, there is no magic bullet, what appeals to one worker, might not to another and vice versa.
As a consequence we all need to be doing lots of different stuff, at lots of different times.
It looks like I should be able to help out for a few days on 10th, 11th & 12th, if that’s any good. I can go to Folkestone or Cardiff, whichever suits (although Cardiff is a bit easier to get to and I know a couple of sympathisers in Cardiff that I might be able to rope in)
