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KeymasterQuote:The school will also see the official launch of a new CPGB book on imperialism: the first English translation of Karl Kautsky's 1898 text, 'Past and Recent Colonial Policy', which features a highly critical introduction by the CPGB's Mike Macnair.Sounds as if we should review this. But it does confirm the impression we got when we went to their summer school that they are (besides a leftwing gossip sheet) more a history society than a political party,
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KeymasterOh dear. It looks as if the acrimony is going to continue whatever we do.The EC is trying to draw a line under the whole affair and let by-gones be by-gones (i.e, not to engage in recriminations as to who started it, who was to blame, etc) and start again, but nobody seems to be taking any notice.If people won't act reasonably or exercise self-restrain there's not much any rules or rule changes can do. But it's still not too late.
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KeymasterI don't think that being an "ex-stalinist" should be considered a crime. After all, there are a lot of them about, including some members of our party.In any event, it is rather ironic that someone in favour of renewable energies and the class struggle should appear to be defending the particular nimbies Aaronovitch was criticising since these were rich people who were opposing windfarms on the grounds that it spolled the view of the surrounding countryside from their mansions. Some of them will even be using the arguments of climate-deniers who argue that renewable energies are not necessary anyway, and have been exposed by Greenpeace for this. Some of them too will have been supporters of the Iraq war.I think we need to recognise that some of those accused of being nimbies really are nimbies and do misuse science to defend their vested interests, which was the point I was trying to make.On the more general issue of science and technology, the case for world socialism has always rested on the fact that the forces of production at the disposal of society have reached a stage where they could be used (if commonly owned and democratuically controlled) to provide enough for everybody on the planet to have a decent standard of living. This does involve an acceptance of modern technology as without this socialist society wouldn't be able to produce enough.We need to recognise that socialism will initially involve the construction of more electricity grids, windfarms, tidal barrages, dams, etc, more roads, railways, ports and airfields, the launching of more communications satellites and more mobile phones and other such devices. How else are we going to solve the problem of world hunger and destitution that socialist society would inherit from capitalism?So socialists are necessarily technological optimists. This does not rule out recognising that under capitalism science and technology can and will be misused in the service of profit and preparations for war. But this is a criticism not of technology as such but of ts misuse. In fact, socialists should welcome advances in scientific understanding and technology as every such advance makes the case for socialism even stronger.
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KeymasterFor those following the discussion here who might not have access to the paper version, here is the supporting statement for Lancaster's discussion item in full:
Quote:Due to large numbers of acrimonious posts on our internal email lists, Lancaster Branch feels that tougher moderation of members who send such posts should take place. They should be put under moderation faster and for a longer period. The posts in question have caused a great deal of damage to members' morale and this has not been good for the Party. Many members called for an end to such posts and they still continued for a period of time. We fully support any action taken by the moderators to deal with such posts in the future and hope they will not recur.ALB
KeymasterHas anyone noticed how Frederick Douglass looks like Karl Marx? Or is it the other way round?
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KeymasterYou could be right, but his programme was more like UKIP's:http://vote-2012.proboards.com/post/59368TUSC might have got more votes if they stood under their other namehttp://www.tusc.co.uk/
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Keymasterhttp://www.englishelections.org.uk/england/wby/eastleigh.phpLucky we didn't contest. Or perhaps not, as we could probably have beaten TUSC. Everybody else did except the Wessex Nationalists but including the 3 loony candidatesThis must surely be the worst result they will ever get, but it will probably take them longer than us to realise that contesting parliamentary by-elections can be counter-productive. It's actually worse than we got at the Little and Sad by-election.How long before serious trade union officials (the TUSC candidate was an RMT full-timer) agree to make fools of themselves in this way? When will Bob Crow pull the plug?
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KeymasterDon't know if this is relevant: http://www.islingtontribune.com/news/2013/feb/grave-abraham-lincolns-chiropodist-found-highgate-cemeteryBut I'm sure Marx would be turning in his grave if he knew that Corin Redgrave was buried in the same cemetery.
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KeymasterActually, as you know, this allegation is not being ignored. At your request, and on the basis of what you have been able to provide, it is being examined in another place.
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KeymasterThey seem to have been occupied by militant feminists. Still, better than by currency cranks. But whatever happened to "anti-capitalism"?
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KeymasterA bit like UKIP here.
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KeymasterGlad to hear that, Steve. I gladly retract what I said. It was not meant to be taken literally. Let by-gones be by-gones is what I say, and let's start again.
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KeymasterMethodology, smetholodology. Don't complicate things. We don't need a complete scale of infringements and sanctions. It's simple. If you call someone a "fucking arsehole" twice, you're sent to the sin bin for a couple of days.
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KeymasterMake up your mind, Steve. What do you want: a practical solution to the problems that have arisen or the moderator's head on a plate?
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KeymasterAs everybody seems to be agreed, let's do it, i.e. revert to the original position on this forum where the only sanction was suspension. I'm sure the moderators too would be relieved if they didn't have to monitor the posts of anyone on moderation.
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