Maltby Town Council by-election

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  • #81857
    ALB
    Keymaster

    It looks as if TUSC may have a good chance of getting a councillor elected in a two-candidate contest against an Independent in a by-election in Maltby on 7 March:

    http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/10431/

    Scroll down to see the comment by their candidate, Joe Henderson, saying that he is "standing for a party that believes in the old labour values."

    #92149
    steve colborn
    Participant

    By defition, those who belteve in "old labour values", are not worth their salt.  Lets get real here and say this is Bullshit!OLV are what has continually got our class into the cesspool we inhabit now.Fuck OLV, lets put Socialist and working class values to the fore. If these pieces of filth want to debate this point, lets debate, they will lose.If need be and I.ve done multiple meetings on Labour party history, I will debate with them. Steve.

    #92150
    ALB
    Keymaster

    As the only Party candidate to have been in the same position of being one of only two candidates (in the event you versus Labour), you would be well placed to debate with this TUSC candidate. I'm not sure though that calling him a "piece of filth" to this face would prove very fruitful ! After all, he might prove amenable to the socialist argument despite his current views.

    #92151
    jondwhite
    Participant

    Filth is what Pat Stack a couple of days ago, privately called those criticising the SWP (http://socialistunity.com/swp-crisis-pat-stack-writes-to-party-members/). Are slurs like this helpful to the case? Perhaps not.

    #92152
    steve colborn
    Participant

    Yes ALB and jond, I must concur with your sentiments. I was probably a tad injudicious in my use of language, for which I apologise. Given the nature of the system these people support, it is hardly surprising they provoke this kind of reaction, even from overly seasoned Socialists like me.I will take more care in the future. Thank you for your helpful comments.Steve.

    #92153
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Here's his manifesto. He's only 20. Maltby is a coalmining town about to suffer the same fate Seaham when the pit there closes at the end of this year:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-20768314Maybe the manifesto we put out in Seaham for the Durham County Council elections in 2005 could serve as a good starting point for any discussion:

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                Durham County Council election, Thursday 5 May 2005 To the voters of Deneside Ward from THE SOCIALIST PARTY Candidate Steve Colborn What matters – profits or people? In Deneside and Seaham as a whole, things have been made very much worse over the past 20 or so years with the closure of three collieries. Collieries that have been closed not because no-one wants coal but because we are told it cannot be produced profitably. No profit – no production! That's the basic economic law of capitalism.For over a century millions of pounds worth of coal has been extracted from these mines. The cost has been high. Hundreds killed and thousands injured as a direct result of their employment with thousands more still suffering today as a result of industrial disease. And what has been our reward?Insecurity for ourselves and an insecure future for our children and grandchildren. A lack of amenities that all ought to enjoy after a hundred years of sacrifice. They even tell us that, with the closure of the mines, there can be no more swimming pool. Even though a majority of us are in favour of building a new one, the council has decided no.Why? Is it because the councillors and council officials are uncaring people? We are sure most of them genuinely want to help others. So why are they against improving local amenities? They say they haven't got the money. True, but why haven't they got the money? Because the government won't give it to them. But why won't the government give it to them? Because it hasn't got the money either, and can't get it because its job is to run the profit system and under the profit system businesses must not be taxed too much or the economy will slow down. It's 'no profit – no production' again.This is why we make no apology for raising the issue of the sort of society we live under in this, a local election. It is impossible to separate the everyday issues of a local council election from the social system we live under. Of course everyone needs homes, sanitation, roads, schools and amenities, all the time. But each of these is a problem far beyond what a change of local councillors can bring about. What is required is a complete change in our way of living.If we are going to improve things we are going to have to act for ourselves. We're going to have to organise democratically to bring about a society geared to meeting human needs, not profits. Production to satisfy human needs. That's the way out. But this is only going to be possible, if we control production and the only basis on which this can be done is common ownership and democratic co-operation. In a word, socialism where human care is a priority for all – and without a price tag. Then, if we want a swimming pool we can simply build one.THE SOCIALIST PARTY cannot bring this about for you, and we're not promising to. As ordinary workers ourselves all we promise is to play our part in bringing about a sane, rational, democratic society where we collectively make the decisions that affect us without needing to worry about how to pay for what we want, since meeting our needs will be the one and only priority.

                        

    #92154
    ALB
    Keymaster

    TUSC actually won this election, with 60% of the vote:http://vote-2012.proboards.com/post/61075

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