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October 3, 2015 at 7:55 am in reply to: Are physical meetings the best form of democratic control in 2015? #114370
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Keymasterrobbo203 wrote:(is it even "only progressing slowly" ? I thought the membership was, actually, slowly falling in absolute terms)Reluctant as I am to keep this thread alive in view of the turn it's taken, here's some details of the numbers of members joining for the past 8 years from a recent Membership Application Committee report:
Quote:2008: 102009: 10 2010: 11 2011: 9 2012: 172013: 21 2014: 29 2015 (to date): 21ALB
KeymasterWhat the Socialist Standard said about Hardie in 1908:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1900s/1908/no-48-august-1908/letters-fall-keir-hardieand in 1961 on the myth of his opposition to the First World Slaughter:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1960s/1961/no-679-march-1961/kier-hardie-myth
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KeymasterIf only to reassure Private Fraser that he needn't jump off a bridge, I am sure we'll be able to ensure a presence at this march in London on Sunday 29 November:http://www.campaigncc.org/29novdemo
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KeymasterI thought most of that lot ended up as Blairites.
September 29, 2015 at 8:13 am in reply to: Atheist banned from criticising the Islamic faith #114568ALB
KeymasterI see the idiot student union officials who proscribed her have been forced to back down by public outrage and ridicule:http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/ex-muslim-speakers-warwick-university-10145068Good thing too.
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KeymasterReview in the Socialist Standard of one of her books here:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2013/no-1303-march-2013/cooking-books-value-creation-and-extraction
Quote:She is not as radical as might at first seem. Her case is not against capitalism as such, but only against present-day capitalism which she sees as biased in favour of finance and against industry. Her ‘production theory of value’ is a plea for, as she put it, ‘reinvesting profits into areas that create goods and services’ instead of financial juggling.It looks as if Labour under Corbyn and McDonnell is going to return to the days (I daren't say the 1960s under Harold Wilson) when they championed the interests of the manufacturing section of the capitalist class against the financial section as championed by the Tories (and in more times by the Labour Party too).
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KeymasterQuote:What that means in practical terms is that 90 per cent of the workers’ pay is deducted by the government.That's worse than the government here deducts from prisoners allowed out to work outside during the day before the end of their sentence. The Prisoners' Earnings Act 1996 only allows
Quote:the prison Governor to take a deduction of 40% from an offender's weekly/monthly earnings over £20.But then workers in North Korea are more or less prisoners.How dare parties like the New Communist Party and the Revolutionary Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) claim that there's something socialist about North Korea. Insofar as they accept "North Korean gold" to maintain their organisation they are living off the backs of the state slave workers there.
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KeymasterJust got round to reading my local paper and an article headlined "Councillor turns Red":
Quote:A Liberal Democrat councillor has defected to Labour in support of Jeremy Corbyn, becoming Richmond's first Labour councillor in more than 13 years. Teddington Councillor Jennifer Churchill … criticised her former party for "parroting Tory economic propaganda". Councillor Churchill told the Richmond and Twickenham Times in her first interview since defecting: "I wouldn't say [it has been coming] for a long time — when Jeremy Corbyn was elected it became a real possibility. The Labour Party's policies are more in line with my own views."On the opposite page the headline is "Lib Dem Lord may follow":
Quote:Baroness Tonge says she agrees with Labour leader on foreign policy and foreign policy and human rights.As Jenny Tonge she was LibDem MP for Richmond between 1997 and 2005.I thought the trend was supposed to be in the other direction. I doubt, though, that either will consider themselves to be anti-capitalist.
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KeymasterAlan, as the original has disappeared in cyberspace, can you repost that anti Scots Nat quote from him about a worker is Glasgow and a worker in Birmingham, etc. having the same problems. It's worth recording. In fact it's what we say.
September 26, 2015 at 10:12 pm in reply to: Atheist banned from criticising the Islamic faith #114561ALB
KeymasterDave B wrote:With Islam it is too complicated to explain.Load of bollocks if you ask me. But at least it's not a death cult like christianity with its images of blood, sacrifice, etc. Ugh.!
September 26, 2015 at 9:57 pm in reply to: Surges in support or membership of political parties #114445ALB
KeymasterBoring !
September 26, 2015 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Atheist banned from criticising the Islamic faith #114557ALB
KeymasterShe is not just an atheist but a Marxist, a member of the "Worker Communist Party of Iran":https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/warwick-university-student-union-bans-feminist-marxist-secularist-maryam-namazie/Here's their definition of socialism::
Quote:Socialism has been defined and interpreted in lots of different ways. We are one of the few currents who emphatically maintain that socialism should be identified with abolition of wage-labour and creation of economic equality between people. It means equality in the status of people in the social production.This clearly distinguishes us from all those currents who identify socialism with planned state economy, with industrialization, or with redistribution of wealth, etc. We maintain that socialism requires the abolition of wage-labour, and the transformation of the means of labour, means of production, into the common property of society. Social welfare and economic security of people can only be the result of such a revolution in the economic foundations of society.We'd get banned too by the politically correct opponents of free speech at Warwick University. And there are people on this forum who want us to go soft on religion.I have heard her speak. She's good. More power to her elbow.
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KeymasterHere's another Trot group, Workers Power, deciding to "enter" the Labour Party and dump Left Unity. As parasites Trot groups need a host and a bigger one has just come along. These people have no shame.http://www.workerspower.co.uk/2015/09/%E2%80%A8jeremy-corbyns-programme-a-revolutionary-socialist-assessment/
Quote:We believe all socialists should join the Labour Party, defend and promote Jeremy’s progressive demands, and work to extend and deepen these policies in a revolutionary socialist direction.We will be working collectively in the Labour Party, hand in hand with others, to advance that cause.ALB
KeymasterI don't think Corbyn is going to like this (but the Daily Mail might):A trot group jumping on his bandwagon (those in the old Militant Tendency who stayed in the Labour Party)…
September 24, 2015 at 7:50 am in reply to: Surges in support or membership of political parties #114432ALB
KeymasterIt'll be on the Master Form C but I haven't got access to one at the moment. At a guess I'd say about 5 but I'll check with the Assistant Treasurer and get back to you.
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