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Before we can settle this we need to know which is the oldest political party in Britain. Is it the Conservatives or the Liberals?
If the Liberals are to be excluded because they merged with the SPD to become the Liberal Democrats, why aren’t the Conservatives ruled out because at some point they merged with the Liberal Unionists to become the Conservative and Unionist Party?
We might end up being the oldest political party in Britain!
Just found this from the Wikipedia entry on the Conservative Party:
“The Conservative Party was founded in 1834 from the Tory Party and was one of two dominant political parties in the 19th century, along with the Liberal Party. Under Benjamin Disraeli, it played a preeminent role in politics at the height of the British Empire. In 1912, the Liberal Unionist Party merged with the party to form the Conservative and Unionist Party.”
It is also increasing the prices of imported goods that workers consume. In the olden days, when currencies were tied to the dollar and the dollar to a fixed price of gold, there were formal devaluations which were a big drama. Since 1971 currencies have floated up and down against each other. Currencies have still “devalued” but gradually rather than as a single event. This is what is happening now to the pound. But the effect will be the same.
Here’s a reminder of what happened to the Wilson Labour government in the 1960d:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinet-office-100/the-1967-devaluation-of-the-pound/
I just thought of that too. The old Liberal Party no longer exists. So the oldest extant political party would be Conservative Party with us as the second?
Strictly speaking it can’t be right as it implies that there are other socialist journals in Britain. But there aren’t any! The Socialist Standard is — of course ! — the only socialist journal in Britain. Isn’t it?
You are right. It does say that on that Facebook page. It needs to be changed and will be if and when we can track down who manages that page.
It is not our main Faebook page which is here (with many more followrers — 4.6K as opposed to 929)
Good point. I don’t think we have ever claimed to be the second oldest political party in Britain, only to have been formed before the Labour Party.
In other words, this thread seems to have started off on a false assumption. Or, Mullrae, have you evidence that we have made this claim?
This article sounds as if it might be of interest to those still following this thread:
Some Historical Background for an Economic Interpretation of the War in Ukraine
I can get Sputnik on my phone but not my laptop.
Truss, in her speech to the UN yesterday, again openly stated that the the current payment-for-energy crisis for workers is due to the West’s siding with Ukraine in the Ukraino-Russian War:
“It’s a price worth paying because our long-term security is paramount. We cannot jeopardise our security for cheap energy.”
There you have it. It’s Guns before Cheap Energy.
I can get RT on my smartphone but not on my laptop. There are some good leads there, to follow up by checking elsewhere of course Like this one:
https://www.rt.com/business/563189-nouriel-roubini-predicts-recession/
If you can read it.
Not too sure about that. There have notoriously been rival Sikh and Muslim gangs in Slough.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/southall-sikhs-attack-muslims-in-feud-1269779.html?amp
Is it any different in principle from Rangers and Celtic fans in Glasgow?
Obviously playing the British “national” anthem was a provocation to supporters of an Irish Catholic football club (as it would be a crowd of socialists) but the reaction is a reminder that opposition to the British monarchy is not necessarily progressive. In this case it was an expression of support for Irish Republicanism, to which socialists are as opposed to as to British monarchism. Still, I suppose it is encouraging that even after a hundred years the British state hasn’t been able to brainwash all its subjects.
