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  • #219033
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    Surprised we have no thread on UFOs or UAPs as we are now to call them.

    Despite the recent blurry video from the American military, i’m still not at all convinced.

    I’ll wait until one lands and the occupants emerge from their spacecraft to announce their arrival and does the rounds of chat-shows.

    #219035
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I have called them UAPs for many years. It’s the proper description as that’s what they are — unidentified aerial phenomena, though in the end most of them do end up being identified of course. But the subject is so boring that I don’t even both to read the articles on them in the Skeptical Inquirer.

    #219041
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    I was relieved that we did not have any comment on recent news about UAPs here.

    #219044

    https://time.com/6071397/ufo-study/

    Another pretext to print more money for the Pentagon like Donald Reagan Stars Wars military program ( SDI ) which never worked. The UFO have been identified a long time ago, they are just military artifacts.

    Some peoples have turned it into a religion and it produces great income and profits from magazines, speech and books.

    The USA always has a threat from outside, even more, the small island of Grenada was a threat to the USA despite the fact that they have 10,000 atomic bombs and missiles.

    The Gavilleros in the Caribbeans carrying machetes were a threat to the USA and they sent an invasion
    https://read.dukeupress.edu/hahr/article/58/4/649/152809/Caudillos-and-Gavilleros-versus-the-United-States

    #219046
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    For a couple of years after I left school I worked at a lowly level in air traffic control but I was able to read the first-hand accounts of UFO reports.

    I was immediately struck by the frequency of sightings by people who had just left the pub and were on their way home.

    Posadas when he wasn’t promoting nuclear war to clear the way for socialism suggested that a civilisation capable of inter-galactic travel must have achieved a socialist society to accomplish it.

    But the fact that some US politicians consider it a national security issue does reveal the paranoia they suffer from.

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-845gCg4sUP4/YMLDzSaUPgI/AAAAAAAAyYo/G53OF3ZbF8sSc5izkhGcwrveNSWcAUUNwCNcBGAsYHQ/w640-h570/mr-fishAdvancedAlienCivilization-500.jpg

    #219047
    ALB
    Keymaster

    A UFO pilot reports back (from the Socialist Standard):

    #219051
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    Why would they bother visiting?

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q8X_yaVeKiI/YMM05FDJMeI/AAAAAAAAyYw/WsptJ0KEPCQG2zZ_V77sgAxBjkSUePXAgCNcBGAsYHQ/w400-h400/106415173_10217186193311115_1078553630260161682_n.jpg

    #219054
    rodshaw
    Participant

    On the slightly related subject of space travel by humans, the view of space scientists like Brian Cox seems to be ‘we’re plundering and ruining the planet, let’s go into space to find another to plunder and ruin’.

    #219063
    JamesMoir
    Participant

    UFOs? if there were such phenomena then surely we would all know, namely, the size of their spaceships would be the giveaway. Wouldn’t they? The distances involved would take them light-years. Now, who can live that long?

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    #219066
    Wez
    Participant

    I recently sighted a UFO and asked on a neighborhood website if anyone else had seen it. The response was a mixture of comical indulgence and outright hostility. It suddenly occurred to me that many have had such sightings but choose not to speak about it for fear of the contemptuous response. As it turned out what I saw was the meteor that recently crashed into our planet and a lot of my ‘neighbours’ had to apologise for their contemptuous remarks. The whole episode reminded me of people’s response when they find out that I’m a socialist – pure contempt. The fear of the unknown is real and potent.

    #219089

    If we eliminate capitalism and war we will not see any more UFO ( UAP ) The same minerals that we exist in the Earth, they also exist in space and that is going to be the future fight of the capitalist class, even more, some of them are claiming private ownership of the space. The definition of private private in law is down to the infinite of the earth, up to the infinite of the space, but some scientists have indicated that none of them are infinite

    #219213
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    Weekly Worker letter from Campaign for Democratic Socialism

    https://www.weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1352/letters/

    #219214

    Liberal Stalinist ? How do we mix that ? Liberal advocated for the non intervention of the state in the economics affairs, and Stalinists is Synoymous of state capitalism

    #219216
    ALB
    Keymaster

    “Zecharia Sitchin, who studied at the London School of Economics, wrote his best seller, The 12th planet, based on his interpretation of ancient Sumerian text, which clearly reveals that humans were genetically engineered from homo erectus into homo sapiens as slave-workers for the aliens, referred to as ‘the Anunnaki’.”

    Classic pseudoscience and pseudohistory. It is not just UAPs that need to be explained but also what motivates some people to believe this sort of stuff. And this one claims to be a socialist. As if we didn’t have a big enough cross to bear.

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