Tragedy of the Commons – Can Bike Share schemes ever work?

March 2024 Forums General discussion Tragedy of the Commons – Can Bike Share schemes ever work?

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  • #81472
    jondwhite
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    Saw this article in the FT and am intrigued as to whether bike sharing schemes work on a city-wide basis.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/2f91efc8-d01e-11e1-a3d2-00144feabdc0.html

    #88815
    Anonymous
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    I think they do and would, but of course within capitalism they are dogged by money – money to set up, money to maintain, and money to hire. As ever then cost dictate quality and in London the embarassment fo advetising Barclays all day whilst riding. Vandalism is a result of stupid people raised inside a stupid system.Given FREE bikes or cars even, with all responsible for maintenance and care, I am sure they would all flourish but then in a socialist world who is going to be rushing to work anyway?!

    #88816
    Anonymous
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    By the meantime the rich are sharing Rolls Royce. In a socialist society resources are going to be invested in order to satisfy the human needs and instead of riding in bicycles the workers and the general population could be riding on mass transportation all over different places. Capitalists have created credit in order for  slaves to be able buy cars  to rush to work and be on time at the point of production, and that also impose more financial burden on the working class with the imposition of expenses in gas, police, courts, insurance companies, mechanics, banks, and jails. In some places like the State of California the car industry purchased all the trains, the state created more road, highway, and thousands of cars and motorcycle are circulating in order to produce more profits for the capitalist class In a socialist society work is going to be voluntarily and peoples will invest the amount of times needed to produce what we might need, we are not going to invest 8 or 12 hours a day when only in a few seconds we produce our nominal  salary and the rest is free labor for the capitalists

    #88820
    jondwhite
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    Quadruple posting. But doesn’t really address the question. If bicycles cannot be shared as common property, is this specific to bicycles (and maybe cars) which should remain personal property? Whereas buses, trains can work in common?

    #88821

    Actually, the “Boris Bikes” give a sense of the liberation from property: when I hire one I can ride across town, and just leave it, whereas with my own bike I have to plan around securing it, and then getting the damn thing back home.  I think in socialism we would probably most of us have a bike we regularly take home, but maybe also store houses of bikes you can just take one from and back to.There’ll soon be no need to own a car, they’ll be robot/computer driven and you’ll just ring it on your mobile for pick up, and then let it go once it’s taken you where you need to go.

    #88817
    jondwhite
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    Cities will need reurban planning. Also don’t you get billed if you don’t return a Boris bike?

    #88818
    HollyHead
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    SussexSocialist wrote:
    Given FREE bikes or cars even, with all responsible for maintenance and care, I am sure they would all flourish but then in a socialist world who is going to be rushing to work anyway?!

     <<Puzzled Expression>> Are you suggesting that there will be no work in socialism? HH

    #88819
    Anonymous
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    He said ‘rushing to work”. In a socialist society work is going to be voluntarily done. We are going to invest the amount of times needed to produce things for our necessary needs.  Paul Lafargue explained that situation  pretty well http://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

    #88822
    Anonymous
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    There will be very very little, if any commuting as I see it. Most shitty jobs will be automated leaving mankind to enjoy work that furthers our development: science, the arts, engineering etc. Apart from travelling for leisure, why would we want bike schemes, car schemes or anything linked to commuting? I can see shared facilities or shared publice transport, but nothing more.

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