The Bible and the benefits system.

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  • #244860
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Here’s what that unsafe site says about the book.

    A novel about the true history of Christianity

    978-620-0-48933-3

    The Yellow Cow is a tragic-comic humanist novel about a young man from Ireland (Eire) named Llywelyn O’Dweyer, whose purpose in life is to acquire wisdom. Living in the early years of Christianity, he can see that this religion is just a copy of many others, all much older. He knows that Christ never existed and that his story is mostly copied from the biography of the god Mithras. Llywelyn decides to discover the true history of Christianity, but he has to abandon his purpose of finding out who founded Christianity, and where it happened because Christians are destroying the entire Greco-Roman culture and murdering anyone who dares to denounce their evil plan. When Llywelyn was about to give up his quest, he had a series of dreams that showed him the answers to all his questions. The young man organizes these dreams into four stories, each with a female protagonist, including Hypatia of Alexandria, the smartest woman of classic times. The last story sheds light on Llywelyn O’Dweyer’s questions, and the reader will be in for a surprise at what it says about who founded Christianity, why and where this religion came into being.
    Authors
    Paul Costa Gavin
    Book language
    English
    Published on
    2023-06-13
    Publishing house
    JustFiction Edition
    Number of pages
    316
    Price (EUR )
    €66.90

    #244861
    Almamater
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    Thomas_More
    Participant
    Christopher Hill’s The English Bible is an excellent historical materialist history of the English Bible.

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    The Rosicrucians have their own bible, their Genesis is based on ‘scientific’ analysis. and their own version of the universe They have written that Jesus was a member of the Essenes, and that he was brought down in comatose from the cross ( although the roman did not use cross ) and their medical doctors cured him, (they were the founder of the nursing homes) and he left with his mother to Cashmere.

    The crucifixion is a just a historical lie because the Roman used sticks and they left their political prisoner in a stick for several days and the only way to die right away was by fracturing the lower extremities and they died by
    asphyiation.

    According to the Bible he only spent several hours and the soldiers did not fracture any part of his body, and blood came from his body and his heart was not pumping blood any more

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    #244870
    Thomas_More
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    ” ( although the roman did not use cross )”

    Are you sure? So Spartacus wasn’t crucified?

    I don’t believe that. To crucify comes from crux (cross).

    #244872
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    You may be right.

    ” Ancient Greek has two verbs for crucify: anastauroo (ἀνασταυρόω), from stauros (which in modern Greek only means “cross” but which in antiquity was used of any kind of wooden pole, pointed or blunt, bare or with attachments) and apotumpanizo (ἀποτυμπανίζω) “crucify on a plank”,[4] together with anaskolopizo (ἀνασκολοπίζω “impale”). In earlier pre-Roman Greek texts anastauro usually means “impale”.[5][6][7]

    The Greek used in the Christian New Testament uses four verbs, three of them based upon stauros (σταυρός), usually translated “cross”. The most common term is stauroo (σταυρόω), “to crucify”, occurring 46 times; sustauroo (συσταυρόω), “to crucify with” or “alongside” occurs five times, while anastauroo (ἀνασταυρόω), “to crucify again” occurs only once at the Epistle to the Hebrews 6:6. Prospegnumi (προσπήγνυμι), “to fix or fasten to, impale, crucify” occurs only once, at the Acts of the Apostles 2:23.

    The English term cross derives from the Latin word crux,[8] which classically referred to a tree or any construction of wood used to hang criminals as a form of execution. The term later came to refer specifically to a cross.[9] The related term crucifix derives from the Latin crucifixus or cruci fixus, past participle passive of crucifigere or cruci figere, meaning “to crucify” or “to fasten to a cross”.[10][11][12][13]”

    The cross was not originally used by the early Christians as their emblem. There are no crucifixion images, I believe, in the catacombs of Rome, and Jesus is portrayed as a mischievous clean-shaven boy. The Christian emblem was not a cross but a fish.

    The bearded Christ came later and was based on images of Zeus.

    #244876
    Almamater
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    ” ( although the roman did not use cross )”

    Are you sure? So Spartacus wasn’t crucified?

    I don’t believe that. To crucify comes from crux (cross).

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    You are watching too much Hollywood movies, and they do not know the historical events about Spartacus, it is a religious creation. He was also a slaves liberator, do we believe in the concept of heroes and great figures ? Toussaint Couverture was also a slaves liberator, and he did not die on a cross, he died from pneumonia

    https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/did-jesus-die-on-cross/

    The swastica came from black peoples or from India and Egypt, therefore, the German Nazis were worshipping and asian or African symbol. Coca Cola advertised their bottled drink using a swastika, and the Girl Scouts

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591
    Directly from the Bible about the concept of cross or stick

    The Egyptian kings used elevated or high cross

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh.

    The greeks historians are saying that Medicine came from Greece and the history of Medicine shows that It came from Africa and from Egypt, the knew how to treat high blood pressure

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8459052/#:~:text=The%20routes%20of%20drug%20administration,baths%20(Bryan%2C%201930).

    https://www.livescience.com/39730- spartacus.html#:~:text=Also%2C%20while%20Spartacus%20was%20a,or%20one%20of%20his%20supporters.

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    #244879
    Ozymandias
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    There is still no contemporary documentary evidence for the actual existence of Christ. Is that still correct?

    #244881
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    Yes. But Spartacus’ revolt is well documented.
    Or was that a name put about by the slaves in revolt to frighten the Roman state? No one met Spartacus. Was he a collective name?

    #244882
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    I don’t watch biblical movies. I don’t like Charlton Heston.

    #244883
    Thomas_More
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    #244884
    Almamater
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    Ozymandias
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    There is still no contemporary documentary evidence for the actual existence of Christ. Is that still correct?

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    There are not any historical evidences that Jesus ever existed, or that he walked in Palestine. It is only a mythology

    #244894
    ALB
    Keymaster

    What we said about this in 1911.

    Did Jesus ever live?

    #244896
    Almamater
    Participant

    Jesus existed as a mythology . There are hundred of books that prove that a human/god person known as Jesus never existed, it was a conception that came from one mythology or the combination of several ancient mythologies.

    The Book titled: Jesus 3000 years before Christ proves that it came from an Egyptian mythology which came about in Rome.

    In ancient civilizations there were hundred of Christs and messiahs, similar to the myth of Jesus, it should have been called Jesusism instead of christianity

    #244897
    Thomas_More
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    For a time, I believe, it was a toss-up between which would triumph: Christianity or Mithraism.
    Tendencies now typical of classic Christianity were already growing within Hellenism (“paganism”), such as the valuing of celibacy and virginity as superior to marriage.
    The anti-Christian Emperor Julian chose celibacy after once being married. He was a neo-Platonist, which was extremely popular among the ruling class. Hellenists had their own “Jesus”, the wandering preacher Apollonius of Tyana, who visited India.

    When Christians were fighting among themselves and different Christian factions alternately had control of the state, celibacy ensured ecclesiastical power, since only monks could become bishops. This was betimes enforced by violence, and monks would invade the towns to punish the secular clergy’s recalcitrance.

    #244898
    Thomas_More
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    Angels are also of Hellenist, as well as Hebrew descent, adopted by Christians. They marked Hellenist graves.

    #244904
    Wez
    Participant

    TM – ‘celibacy ensured ecclesiastical power’

    What’s the evidence for this – I’m told that even Pope’s had many illegitimate children.

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