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  • #176476

    Marcos
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    The social dynamic can change the minds of many peoples. We can never precisely predict anything taking place on the political world

    #176832

    ZJW
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    Re #175811

    1. That Portland member left the WSPUS sometime in 2015.

    2. The WSPUS’s abandoned website gives a very poor impression; it should be taken down. (But no doubt there is no one who will attend *even* to this, not mention keeping it updated.) Any worthy material on it (articles from the old Western Socialist etc) that is not already to be found elsewhere should be reproduced elsewhere.

    3) Rather than following in the footsteps of the Australian party, (or of the SLP in the US), honorable suicide should be considered: formally disbanding. Party archives, rather than sitting in someone’s basement or garage, should be transported to the SPGB (or possibly the Canadian party) or given to some university.

     

     

    #176834

    Marcos
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    The WSPUS has been dead for many years

    #176837

    alanjjohnstone
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    ZJW, I think I concur.

    Rather than disbanding one other alternative is re-branding. No longer a political party but a Socialist Education Society/Marxist Study Group or whatever revamping a new website to fit the remit. Classic theoretical economic/history articles would not require updating. That would be a more realistic option than trying to resurrect the WSPUS from the dead.

    But those isolated individuals what should become of them? A choice of membership of SPC or SPGB?

    As you probably read elsewhere on the forum, I am frequently suggesting that we formally create a World Socialist Party.

    As for archives, we should right now determine what it consists of and who is holding it. And have it freighted at the SPGB cost to be placed in Clapham. The SPC has no storage facilities. The other option is an American library or educational institution being presented with the archives

     

     

    #176839

    ZJW
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    alanjjohnstone,
           
    ‘Rather than disbanding one other alternative is re-branding. No longer a political party but a Socialist Education Society/Marxist Study Group or whatever revamping a new website to fit the remit. Classic theoretical economic/history articles would not require updating. ‘
           
    Good idea.
           
    ‘As you probably read elsewhere on the forum, I am frequently suggesting that we formally create a World Socialist Party.’
    Yes, I’ve seen that. Given that I’ve never been a member of any WSM party, I really ought to keep my opinions to myself … but, I agree. (In spite of the fact that, as has been pointed out, there is no world Parliament/Congress/Legislature whose seats could be contested. There are no doubt technical/legal ways to keep election contestation at the nation-state level.)
           
    As for the archives, I was given to understand (some years back anyway) that they are in Ron’s possession.
    #176880

    Marcos
    Participant

    This group confuses the World Socialist Movement with World Reformist Movement:

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/10/lett-o30.html

    #176881

    Marcos
    Participant

    The solution is simple. Join the socialist party of Great Britain and transfer all the archives and websites to the SPGB. It should have been done 12 years ago

    #176884

    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    To be a party of equals, Marcos, the SPGB has to adapt so that foreign based members can be fully involved in the decision-making process.

    The all-party poll permits voting by email but what about submitting resolutions to conference and engaging in the debates plus taking up party-officer positions within the administration of the organization.

    At one time we were investigating and experimenting with  video participation of EC meetings. I think this has fallen by the wayside although Edinburgh Br is exploring a similar method for its branch meetings.

    As for all the archives being transferred to the UK, this will handicap any future researcher into the history of the WSPUS. As I suggested, a local library or university might be the appropriate depository of archives.

    Marcos, winding up the WSPUS is simple but what happens next is not so simple and requires much thought.

     

    #176886

    imposs1904
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    “The solution is simple. Join the socialist party of Great Britain and transfer all the archives and websites to the SPGB. It should have been done 12 years ago”

    No thanks.

    #176890

    Marcos
    Participant

    “The solution is simple. Join the socialist party of Great Britain and transfer all the archives and websites to the SPGB. It should have been done 12 years ago”

    No thanks.

     

     

    What is wrong with joining the SPGB?

    #176892

    Marcos
    Participant

    As for all the archives being transferred to the UK, this will handicap any future researcher into the history of the WSPUS. As I suggested, a local library or university might be the appropriate depository of archives.

     

    The only organization that I know which has done that is News and Letters and they are always updating their files. Is the WSPUS going to do that?

     

    #176894

    Marcos
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    At one time we were investigating and experimenting with video participation of EC meetings. I think this has fallen by the wayside although Edinburgh Br is exploring a similar method for its branch meetings.

    The CPUSA, and the RCPUSA  are  doing that already, and both are Leninists organizations

    #176895

    Marcos
    Participant

    The International Marxists-Humanists organization founded by Peter Hudis and Kevin Anderson a few years ago is giving conferences and lectures thru different cities in the USA, and almost every month they have a conference in Los Angeles and San Francisco. They have given conferences in China and sometimes they have conferences in London.

    #176896

    Marcos
    Participant

    The Socialist Labor Party of America is dead, but they are publishing a newsletter every month which is being sent to sympathizers and ex-members

    #176901

    ZJW
    Participant

    Marcos,

    As an ex-De Leonist, I would be very much interested in the newsletter you mention. How does one contact them so as to get it? Thanks.

    (I have not noticed an active website of that sort; and even the website of that joke of a revived WIIU is no more.)

     

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