“Revolutionary Communist Party” name to be revived

April 2024 Forums General discussion “Revolutionary Communist Party” name to be revived

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  • #248636
    Lizzie45
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    I imagine that Grant’s successors. having built up some support amongst students, has thought this up as something to keep these recruits occupied and motivated in order to retain them

    So what will your little band of bruvvers (and two sistahs) do to retain your recruits, assuming you make any in the first place?
    Offer them a share of the £2.6 million which they can hopefully spend before it’s too late?

    #248639
    robbo203
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    So what will your little band of bruvvers (and two sistahs) do to retain your recruits, assuming you make any in the first place?
    Offer them a share of the £2.6 million which they can hopefully spend before it’s too late?
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    Moderator, do we have to put up with endless crap? I don’t know what this troll is doing on the forum, anyway, given her views on where she imagines the SPGB is heading…

    #248640
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Oh dear, the wannabe Spanish censor rears his ugly head yet again.

    Tut tut, you naughty boy.

    #248641
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    To be fair Robbo, she gets on my thrupenny bits as well, but if we are consistent in our view we kind of have to put up with shite like hers.

    I think she’s probably a bit pissed off with your language abilities, she clearly wants to be the only cunning linguist on the forum.

    #248642
    robbo203
    Participant

    Lizzie45 You do realise that trollish behaviour is not allowed on this forum, don’t you? Preventing such behaviour from contaminating this forum has got nothing to do with censoring other people´s views

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by robbo203.
    #248644
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    Genuine question to Lizzie, you described me as a “hammerhead”, I’ve never heard that being used as an insult. As insults go it’s a bit shite. Is it a direct translation from a common German insult.

    #248646

    @Robbo203 :

    14. Rule enforcement is the responsibility of the moderators, not of the contributors. If you believe a post or private message violates a rule, report it to the moderators. Do not take it upon yourself to chastise others for perceived violations of the rules.

    @Bijou Drains:
    1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

    “Hammerhead” is off-topic.


    @lizzie45

    6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).

    You’ve been cautioned on this rule before. My view in this case was that in the context this was a legitimate comment, but please do try and contribute a bit more than ‘you guys suck’, if only to save my poor brain cells from tedium.

    Please do not reply to Bijou drains about Hammerhead, let’s leave it as a mystery.

    There will be no replies to this post, I have the ban hammer ready, let’s get back to discussing RCP: I’ve had a good two weeks without having to do any mod interventions, I prefer life like that.

    #248647
    DJP
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    So what will your little band of bruvvers (and two sistahs) do to retain your recruits, assuming you make any in the first place?

    The SPGB doesn’t manipulatively ‘recruit’ in the way that the Trotskyists do. They (the SPGB) are looking for fully understanding members who can fully participate in the group’s democratic functioning. The opposite of the Trotskyists, who are looking for foot soldiers to do the leg work and so churn through members and restrict participation.

    If you want to criticise the SPGB for anything, I don’t a failure to retain members can be high on the list. Most members are long-standing.

    But still, I’m puzzled why you’re so concerned.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by DJP.
    #248650
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    If you want to criticise the SPGB for anything, I don’t a failure to retain members can be high on the list.

    If you’re who I think you are, weren’t you once a member? 🙂

    Most members are long-standing.

    And, with the greatest respect, long in the tooth!

    But still, I’m puzzled why you’re so concerned.

    A girl’s got to have a variety of pleasures, including BD’s cunning linguist, to relieve occasional boredom. Coming here is just one such activity. 🙂

    But, mister moderator, I really will try to be more constructive in future…

    #248689

    @Everyone

    1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.

    #248772
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Trots criticise us for not having achieved socialism by now, when they haven’t, either! Can you imagine!

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    Their leader known as Leon Trotsky did not know what socialism really is either, and he was the less apt of the Bolsheviks, ironically, Stalin knew what socialism really is and it was written on his book on Anarchism. Trotsky wife knew that the Soviet Union was a state capitalist society.

    Their reasoning contradicts Karl Marx completely, he never said that socialism was going to be achieved by a minority group, a political party, or a leader, but by the self emancipation of the working class with class consciousness and with the desires to establish a new society, therefore, they are not Marxist either

    PS I sent another message and it was not posted

    #250417
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Head Office has acquired a copy of the first issue (No.1, 24 January 2024) of “The Communist”, the journal of the proposed (third) “Revolutionary Communist Party”.

    A picture of Lenin appears on 7 of its 16 pages. There are also articles by and about him. There is no mention of Trotsky on any page. It is not clear on what basis they have calculated that they will do better calling themselves “communists” with Lenin, hammer and sickle and the rest rather than posing as leftwing “socialist” Labour Party members.

    Strange, because their origin is the part of the Militant Tendency that stayed in the Labour Party when the other lot left and tried to steal our name but ended up being know appropriately enough as SPEW. Their guru, Ted Grant, had always taught that Trotskyists should stay in the Labour Party until the revolution started as that’s where workers would apparently turn to when they began to become more radical.

    Maybe his successors feel that “the revolution” (armed uprising) is imminent. Some of the articles and headlines suggest that they might think it is.

    We are told:

    “It is becoming increasingly clear that capitalism has reached its limits … the deepening crisis of world capitalism …Under capitalism we are heading for disaster.”

    “Capitalism is in a profound crisis. Millions of workers and young people are drawing revolutionary conclusions, and are looking to the ideas of communism.”

    Millions?! We haven’t noticed it and they themselves claim only 1100 members.

    The editorial ends:

    “We need a fighting communist leadership in the working class. That is what we are building”.

    No thanks. The working class needs that as much as a hole in the head.

    #250419
    james19
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    #250420
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    You can put all those so called communists and socialists organizations in a blender and you will obtain the same juice, they are all based on reformism, state capitalism, and the concept of the chieftain

    I do not think that millions of young peoples are looking for communism, they just want reforms, new governments controls and new leaders, that is not communism, it is the same old thing.

    Lenin was never a communist

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