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  • #237136
    rodshaw
    Participant

    So as mentioned already, none of these songs really packs a socialist message but at least most of them are anti-capitalist in some form.
    For me it begs the question (and I know all you can do is speculate) – what would people write about in a socialist society? Would there be anything serious to protest against or would it be all party music and songs about broken hearts?

    #237140
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Lyrics to our one-time party song (there is sheet music for it in archives, I think)

    “The World for the Workers”.

    Words & Music by H. J. Neumann

    You toilers of the world, arise!
    To bravely speed the day,
    When all your forces organise
    King Capital to slay,
    And from the master class you’ll wrest
    The Powers of the State,
    Which, wielded in your interest,
    Your class emancipate.

    There sounds above the class war din
    The battle-cry we use:
    Unite! you have a world to win,
    Your chains alone to lose.”

    Your lot in life is darkest gloom;
    You sow and others reap.
    And want and mis’ry are your doom,
    While idlers treasures heap.
    Why have they riches, you distress,
    Though you all wealth have wrought?
    It is because the few possess
    The earth, while you have nought.

    There sounds above the class war din
    The battle-cry we use:
    Unite! you have a world to win,
    Your chains alone to lose.”

    While you an idle class maintain
    For pittances you’ll toil.
    To own your products you must gain
    Possession of the soil
    And of all means the workers need
    To found the Commonwealth,
    And thus enable all to lead
    Full lives of peace and health.

    There sounds above the class war din
    The battle-cry we use:
    Unite! you have a world to win,
    Your chains alone to lose.”

    Arise! the message to proclaim,
    The message full of cheer:
    That Labour’s freedom is your aim,
    That brighter days are near.
    To men exhausted by the fray,
    To women in despair,
    To children wanting food and play,
    To all the message bear

    There sounds above the class war din
    The battle-cry we use:
    Unite! you have a world to win,
    Your chains alone to lose.”

    #237141
    twc
    Participant

    Moses Baritz

    “[Moses Baritz’s] hatred of Russian Communist trickery and double dealing made him keep valuable information about Engels and his life in Manchester from them, and I hope his material which he was collecting at that time and up to his death can yet be edited and published.”
    — Obituary, Western Socialist of May 1938

    Did anything come of this?

    Moses Baritz was a music critic for the Manchester Guardian (as was the brilliant Ernest Newman) and he is recognised as Britain’s first radio “disk jockey” (1924).

    Question — Do Party archives contain examples of Moses Baritz’s music criticism?

    * * *

    Yet another Moses Baritz anecdote, this time supplied by WJC, who was with him on the occasion.

    “Moses Baritz wandered off Sydney’s George Street into its snootiest music store (Palings) and was about to be thrown out for touching their grand piano, when he started playing it.

    He finished up performing in the front window to a bemused crowd that gathered outside in the street.”

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    #237148
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    #237149

    A world socialist society will eliminated border, frontiers and nations-state, but it will not eliminate the particular cultures of the earth, therefore, music will continue being developed in the same way. We are going to continue playing and listening classical music, operas, rocks, jazz, latin jazz, boleros, operas, etc etc. I am a music collector and I have an enormous collection ( crate digger ) of classical, operas, jazz, latin jazz, afrocuban music, and boleros, and I will continue listening the same type of music. Like this one:

    #237187
    twc
    Participant

    Dissecting the Body Politic

    Marx, Capital 1, Ch 25, footnote 6 .. .

    “Originally, political economy was studied by philosophers such as Hobbes, Locke and Hume; by businessmen and statesmen, like Thomas More, Temple, Sully, De Witt, North, Law, Vanderlint, Cantillon and Franklin; and the theoretical aspects especially were studied, and with the greatest success, by medical men like Petty, Barbon, Mandeville and Quesnay.

    Musician Hector Berlioz and, Weimar-playwright before-its-time in 1835, Georg Büchner owe some of their artistic bent to hours spent practicing the fine art of anatomy and human dissection.

    (Near-contemporary John Keats operated with the surgeon’s knife at Guy’s Hospital in London, while squeamish medical student Charles Darwin escaped to the tropics on board “The Beagle”.)

    Tim Minchin was raised in an extended medical family, like French novelist Gustave Flaubert, whose 1857 “Madame Bovary” was translated into English by Marx’s daughter Eleanor.

    As young men, they learnt to stick the knife into a sick body.

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    #237198
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Remembering Christine McVie before her tenure with Fleetwood Mac.

    #237209
    rodshaw
    Participant

    ‘Lyrics to our one-time party song (there is sheet music for it in archives, I think)
    “The World for the Workers”.
    Words & Music by H. J. Neumann’

    Somebody could have a go at doing a modern version of this. Same lyrics to rap, maybe?

    (Don’t tell me, somebody already has…)

    #237210
    rodshaw
    Participant

    “I’ve sometimes wondered what music I would select, if I had to go on BBC’s Desert Island Discs. I wonder no longer! My comrades on this forum have given me the complete playlist. Thank you one and all!”

    If Desert Island Discs survives into the socialist era, maybe Paula should be its first guest.

    #237440
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    Rather than link the song, I’ve put the lyrics down.
    Most will have heard the song, the general public, including those who love to sing along with it, probably don’t realise what the song I saying.

    Going Underground The Jam

    Some people might say my life is in a rut
    I’m quite happy with what I got
    People might say that I should strive for more, but
    I’m so happy I can’t see the point
    Something’s happening here today
    A show of strength with your boy’s brigade
    And I’m so happy and you’re so kind
    You want more money, of course I don’t mind
    To buy nuclear textbooks for atomic crimes
    And the public gets what the public wants
    But I want nothing this society’s got
    I’m going underground (going underground)
    Well, if the brass bands play and feet start to pound
    Going underground (going underground)
    Well, let the boys all sing and let the boys all shout for tomorrow
    Some people might get some pleasure out of hate
    Me, I’ve enough already on my plate
    People might need some tension to relax
    Me? I’m too busy dodging between the flak
    What you see is what you get
    You’ve made your bed, you better lie in it
    You choose your leaders and place your trust
    As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
    You’ll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
    And the public wants what the public gets
    But I don’t get what this society wants
    I’m going underground (going underground)
    Well, if the brass bands play and feet start to pound
    Going underground (going underground)
    So let the boys all sing and let the boys all shout for tomorrow
    la-la-la-la
    (Oh) la-la-la-la
    We talk and we talk until my head explodes
    I turn on the news and my body froze
    This braying sheep on my TV screen
    Make this boy shout, make this boy scream
    Going underground
    I’m going underground
    I’m going underground
    I’m going underground
    la-la-la-la
    (Oh) la-la-la-la
    (Oh) la-la-la-la
    (Oh) la-la-la-la
    Braying sheep on my TV screen
    Make this boy shout, make this boy scream
    Going underground (going underground)
    Well, if the brass bands play and feet start to pound
    Going underground (going underground)
    Well, let the boys all sing and let the boys all shout
    Going underground (going underground)
    Well, if the brass bands play and feet go pound-pound-pound
    Going underground (going underground)
    So let the boys all sing and let the boys all shout for tomorrow

    #237441
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    More of Mr Weller’s genius songbook

    #237609
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Hey, here’s mah sista from a diffren mista 🙂

    #237613
    paula.mcewan
    Participant

    I had the strangest dream,I can’t stop dreaming it https://youtu.be/AZU-9TBP2NY

    #237778
    Moo
    Participant

    I haven’t completely caught up with this thread, so I apologise if these songs have already been posted.

    Peace Train by Yusuf Islam

    #237779
    Moo
    Participant

    The General by Dispatch

    (Along with “Revolution” by Tracy Chapman, I also have to hold back the tears while listening to this song).

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