Democratic Socialists added 1000 members in 2 days following election
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Vin wrote:jondwhite wrote:18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQ
They offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.Besides, we got 5k in a week Do the mathand we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.Hope you've been sharing ours
Indeed, and we haven't yet invested any money in its promotion.But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum.
Quote:But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum.Nothing of the kind. It has been informative and has allowed some comments from our viewpoint, for the illumination of non-members and newer members who can't attend discussion groups and education classes..
Vin wrote:jondwhite wrote:18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQThey offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.Besides, we got 5k in a week Do the mathand we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.Hope you've been sharing ours
That is all what they do: To confuse the workers. With the left socailism has not advanced one inch or one day
Matt wrote:Damn,I can't comment on the article unless I take out a subscription.Well, try to join the club of the CPUSA
A Guardian article related to this threadhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sanders
Quote:“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the targetof a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”alanjjohnstone wrote:A Guardian article related to this threadhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sandersQuote:“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the target of a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”A new form of State Capitalism like in the Soviet Union, by employing millions of workers by the state. The state apparatus become part of the ruling elite and the national corporation. Bernie Sanders is a new dealer, and his conception of socialism is what Marx called bourgeoisie communism. Real socialists ideas have not spread in the USA yet. Left wingers have propagated the wrong conceptions that state education, state transportation, state medical services, civil service, social service, are socialism-communism. It is not a threat to capitalism
There is one so called Democratic Socialist who was elected in the US on November 8, 2017. He is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. He was able to defeat a very powerful Republican candidate . Despite that he is just a leftwing reformist, It looks like the word socialism in the USA is not a dirty word any longer https://newrepublic.com/article/145727/socialist-beat-one-virginias-powerful-republicans
Interesting. Was this an election to the Virginia State legislature ("House of Delegates") rather than the national "House of Representatives"?
ALB wrote:Interesting. Was this an election to the Virginia State legislature ("House of Delegates") rather than the national "House of Representatives"?Yes, but he defeated a long time recalcitrant right winger
"House of Delegates". I like it. Good new name in Socialism for the House of Commons and the House of Representatives.
By the meantime, What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ?
An interview on the DSAhttp://inthesetimes.com/article/20686/democratic-socialists-of-america-election-left-win
Something to read about the DSA and the Democratic Partyhttp://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/42609-how-democratic-socialists-worked-with-sanders-s-our-revolution-and-other-grassroots-groups-to-sweep-november-s-elections
Quote:You had to be running as a Socialist. You didn't have to be a DSA member, Ginger Jentzen is not. But you had to be a Socialist and be okay with talking about it, even if it wasn't in the forefront of your campaign.my emphasis
Marcos wrote:By the meantime, What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ?Doing its best, notwithstanding all the distorters and detractors, in keeping alive the real meaning of socialism in the US.
Quote:What is the WSPUS doing in the USA ? …Doing its best, notwithstanding all the distorters and detractors, in keeping alive the real meaning of socialism in the US.I think we have to consider the state of our party and our companion parties. It is not a healthy one, as i am sure many would agree.We are considering a national structure for ourselves. It is a shame that the remit does not go wider and produce suggestions on creating a real World Socialist Movement…a unified world party. Would such a re-organisation help to reverse the downward trend of membership and participation? Well, that is up for debate, a debate we cannot avoid having even if we do presently procrastinate.
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