Critical Race Theory

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  • #225043
    alanjjohnstone
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    #225099
    Anonymous
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    The rage against critical race theory

    This is an analysis made by the CPUSA in regard to the C.R.T.

    The main problem is that the right wings have tried to unify this theory with Marxism which is not true, and also the same theory reduce the workers struggle into a racial struggle instead of a class struggle. The real indoctrination is not CRT, it is the bourgeois ideology the one which has adoctrinated workers for many decades and have created divisions among the working class

    This is another analysis but it has been made by the New York Times and the Washington post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/29/critical-race-theory-bans-schools/

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/09/06/race-s06.html

    This is an analysis made by a trotskyist group which is rejecting the concept of identity politic

    What is very clear is that this is not a socialist or marxist conception, our real liberation as human beings is not based on races, sex, or religion

    #225102
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    My understanding is that Florida, following the example of Texas on the abortion issue, will permit parents to sue school boards if they teach CRT which is so very loosely defined, that a history lesson describing the ending slavery and the introduction of Jim Crow laws to foil ex-slaves from benefiting from the Reconstruction would be CRT

    #225105
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It is all pure ignorance. Libraries are being closed and bookstores are going in bankruptcy. Talking about indoctrination, there are some workers who dare to deny the historical existence of slavery. Howard Zin said that class struggles has been completely eliminated from the history of the USA. The USA is going back to the 18th Century

    #225121
    ALB
    Keymaster

    If you ask me, CRT stands for Critical-Racist Theory. You don’t have to be “white” to be a racist.

    #225122
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Only racists support the concept of race

    #225123
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    From my exchanges on CRT, what is always missing is the understanding that class is always absent from the discussions.

    American schools don’t debate labour union history, much less the stories of the left-wing. They may know of the Red Scare of McCarthyism because it attacked Hollywood movie stars but, the Sedition Act and persecution of the IWW and Debs the SPA the Palmer Raids, the criminal syndicalism acts, the Alien act and the deportations of foreign-born radicals, the strike waves of the 1930s and the rise of the CIO.

    Once upon a time Eugene Debs’ ‘Appeal to Reason’ sold more than a million copies a week in the years before the First World War.

    At its peak in 1912, the radical, if still reformist, Socialist Party of the USA organised 118,000 individual members, published no less than 323 different publications with a combined readership of over two million, polled 900,000 votes in that year’s Presidential election, and elected 1,200 office-holders in 340 cities, including 79 mayors in 24 states.
    Morris Hillquit ran for Mayor of New York on an anti-war platform in August 1918, called for a negotiated peace, and polled 146,000 votes. Victor Berger was elected and re-elected to Congress.

    Opposition to the USA’s entry into the war in 1917 brought a total of 2,100 people arrested and indicted for opposing the war, and over 1,000 convicted, with over 100 of them receiving prison terms of 10 years or more. Debs, the 64-year-old party leader, was sentenced in 1918 to 10 years in jail and was not released until 1921, long after the war was over. 17 COs were sentenced to death (commuted), 142 to life in prison, and 345 to prison terms that averaged 16 years.

    CRT should be renamed Class Remembered Theory.

    #225190
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Cde.RobertS with his regualr thrice-weekly summary of the media has linked to this article on CRT and why it isn’t a Marxist analysis.

    https://www.midwesternmarx.com/articles/why-critical-race-theory-is-not-marxism-by-paul-so

    #225191
    Anonymous
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    Besides that explanation given, the liberation of mankind would not be based on sex, religion, sexual orientation, ethnic groups, or national groups. There is also a large number of black individuals in the USA who are also members of the capitalist class. Racism has a class origin and it affects the whole society, there is also racism in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. It should be called The Critical Racist Theory

    #225196
    ALB
    Keymaster

    That article Robert S found isn’t that good. Mao is quoted as a dialectical materialist philosopher about the difference between antagonistic and non-antagonistic contradictions. According to the author, the difference between Marxism and one school of CRT is over whether the contradiction between the white working class and the black working class is antagonistic or non-antagonistic.

    What the article seems to be saying is that there is a difference between Maoism and CRT. No doubt, but who cares?

    Obviously, from a genuinely socialist point of view, if CRT is saying that there is an irreconcilable conflict of interest between white and black workers they are wrong and preaching dangerous racist nonsense. But is there are contradiction between these two sections of the working class anyway?

    #225198
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The article in question is racist too, it is based on the idea that there are antagonistic contradictions between black and white, which is wrong and it is racist, his analysis is based on the same idea of the CRT, therefore, it does not clarify anything, he is citing Mao because he did consider that there were contradictions among the so-called ‘peoples’ Mao as a philosopher was total confusion and it was even worst than Lenin Materialism Empirio-criticism. he was so sad that Enver Hoxha called him the modern Chinese Confucius

    #225199
    DJP
    Participant

    if CRT is saying that there is an irreconcilable conflict of interest between white and black workers

    But CRT isn’t saying that. From and article I posted in the previous thread about this:

    Critical race theory is a field of intellectual inquiry that demonstrates the legal codification of racism in America.

    Through the study of law and U.S. history, it attempts to reveal how racial oppression shaped the legal fabric of the U.S. Critical race theory is traditionally less concerned with how racism manifests itself in interactions with individuals and more concerned with how racism has been, and is, codified into the law.

    There are a few beliefs commonly held by most critical race theorists.

    First, race is not fundamentally or essentially a matter of biology, but rather a social construct. While physical features and geographic origin play a part in making up what we think of as race, societies will often make up the rest of what we think of as race. For instance, 19th- and early-20th-century scientists and politicians frequently described people of color as intellectually or morally inferior, and used those false descriptions to justify oppression and discrimination.

    Second, these racial views have been codified into the nation’s foundational documents and legal system. For evidence of that, look no further than the “Three-Fifths Compromise” in the Constitution, whereby slaves, denied the right to vote, were nonetheless treated as part of the population for increasing congressional representation of slave-holding states.

    Third, given the pervasiveness of racism in our legal system and institutions, racism is not aberrant, but a normal part of life.

    Fourth, multiple elements, such as race and gender, can lead to kinds of compounded discrimination that lack the civil rights protections given to individual, protected categories. For example, Crenshaw has forcibly argued that there is a lack of legal protection for Black women as a category. The courts have treated Black women as Black, or women, but not both in discrimination cases – despite the fact that they may have experienced discrimination because they were both.

    Source: https://theconversation.com/critical-race-theory-what-it-is-and-what-it-isnt-162752

    In light of facts like these:
    http://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/21/how-america-compares-to-the-world-when-split-by-race
    How are you going to argue against the above?

    “Race” and white supremacy are still very relevant factors in US politics, this should be obvious to anyone that wants to look. I’m not sure how you can have any understanding of recent American history without using these concepts. “CRT” has just become the latest bogey of the American right, lets not get swept away with that.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by DJP.
    #225201
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There are many versions of CRT. There is not an homogeneous conception, but basically it is a racist theory

    #225202
    DJP
    Participant

    it is a racist theory

    OK, then in that case you’ll have to say what you are specifically talking about and *why* you think it’s racist. Otherwise you’re just repeating GOP political lies and ideology.

    #225204
    DJP
    Participant

    As far as I can work out this whole moral outrage about “Critical Race Theory” has been manufactured by the American Right as a convenient vehicle in an effort to regain power. I think we need to tread carefully.

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