Attack on Abortion Law

December 2022 Forums General discussion Attack on Abortion Law

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  • #230697

    It was expected since more than 70% of white Christian women voted for the Republicans and for cavemen, they should have known better, now they are going to the streets to protest against the decision, or they will be forced to go to Mexico or Argentina ( called Banana Republics ) to have an abortion, the real thing is that most peoples oppose to abortion they do not have too many children.

    In my political dictionary the word Conservative means: Reactionary, recalcitrant and backward. I have known that since I was a very young person, and most peoples believe that the world is divided between Liberal vs conservative, and liberal do not exist, they only existed in France and England during the XVIII Century. Our world is divided between Bourgoise and Proletarian, and I have known that since I was a child and I you do not need a doctorate degree to know that, just read the Communist Manifesto and stop reading comics books and romantic novels

    The so called separation of Church and State has just been sent to the trash can and to the toilet, going back to the times of Feudalism and the time of the Inquisition, it is just a legal illusion . I do not know when mankind is going to send to the trash can a stupid and backward ideology known as religion, those recalcitrants do not have a clue about Biology, Embryology and Medicine, they are guided by Witchcraft, they are just lawyers, they are not scientists, defending the interest of the bourgeois class.

    The so called heartbeat at the early stage it is a stupidity, they are just cell impulses proven by Molecular and Cell biology, In Argentina the Congress took scientists to their discussion about abortion and sciences was the winner above witchcraft and superstition and abortion was approved by the majority of the members of the senate, and the decision was not made by a court

    #230713
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Hypocrisy

    The Supreme Court denies state rights to New York to legislate control over guns but decides state rights should be permitted to impose control over a woman’s body

    #230714

    And peoples continue believing in those assholes it is the same hypocrisy of the pro life or pro birth

    #230775

    The so-called slogan of the government for the peoples and by the peoples is just a bourgeoise fallacy, there is not any relationship between government and democracy. The decision of the supreme court is the ruling of the minority against the majority, therefore the so-called American democracy is just another fallacy too

    #230837

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/constitution-literally-written-slaveowners-why-203000305.html

    Peoples should not be surprised about the decree emitted by the US Supreme Court. The whole constitution was drafted by slaves owners including those mentioned as progressive by some leftist groups. The precedent Separated but Equal was approved by the Supreme Court and then it was reversed, Jim Crow and a drop o black will make you black was also approved by that court, prohibition on interracial marriage which was a crime was approved by them. Most of the law professor of Constitutional law glorify the constitution but they never mentioned that the blacks and Indians were left out the constitution and they were not a complete human being. Therefore, most human beings were not created equal. July 4 is just the commemoration of the birth of US capitalism

    #230866
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    Looks like the bible supports the concept of abortion.

    Numbers 5:11-31

    “Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray(A) and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her,(B) and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy(C) come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a](D) of barley flour(E) on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy,(F) a reminder-offering(G) to draw attention to wrongdoing.

    16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair(H) and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy,(I) while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.(J) 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray(K) and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse(L) not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray(M) while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse(N)—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water(O) that brings a curse(P) enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

    “‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.(Q)”

    23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll(R) and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord(S) and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering(T) and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.(U) 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

    29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray(V) and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy(W) come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences(X) of her sin.’”

    #230871

    Victory for white life

    #230995

    The reversal of abortion law in the USA has created a big mess, and some states want to enact laws to legalize abortion themselves, and other state want to enact laws to prohibit women to travel to other states to obtain an abortion. The new claim of women is that their privacy is not longer private, even more, when abortion was ilegal before Roe vs Wade, abortion was done in a very private way nobody knew about it including close relatives. The supreme court decision is also based on hypocrisy because many lawmakers do not want women to have abortion in other states. It is a decision against women. Period

    https://www.newsweek.com/roe-v-wade-overturn-launches-battles-womens-privacy-state-courts-1721032?utm_source=PushnamiMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1656773478753&subscriberId=60ebe8fe94bbe71ea0bca852

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/majority-of-americans-think-supreme-court-overturning-roe-was-more-about-politics-than-law The majority of peoples in the USA support abortion. The so called pro life they are just pro birth, when the children are born they do not care about them. Million of children are dying around the world, and many of them support wars and possession of guns, and the so called Christian pro life contradict their own religious principles

    #231006

    https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-advances-amendment-codify-abortion-contraception-and-stronger-equal

    NY senate advances amendment to codify abortion. The question is why the US congress did not codify abortion when the Democrats were the majority during the government of Barrack Obama ? Why the Democrats did not eliminate the filibuster when they were majority ?

    #231092
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The Christian Theocracy?

    A lawsuit filed by a synagogue in Florida has challenged plans to limit abortions in the state on the grounds that it would violate religious rights and therefore be unconstitutional. The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20220628-synagogue-sues-florida-over-abortion-limits-a-possible-template-for-future-challenges

    “If a foetus poses a threat to the health or emotional well-being of its mother, at any stage of gestation up until birth, Jewish law not only entitles but requires the mother to abort the pregnancy and protect herself,” the suit argues.

    #231370
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The side-effect of the anti-abortion laws on IVF treatment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/16/ivf-anti-abortion-states-embryos-personhood

    #231377

    Many scientific research are going to be stopped due to the anti abortion law and witchcraft is going to prevail. The progress on stem cells and mRNA are going to be stopped, those research can provide the cure for many diseases. Regenerative medicine and embryology is going to be dumped Ignorance will prevail again. As Carlin said: Fuck religion

    #231560

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/2022/07/25/watch-university-of-michigan-medical-students-walk-out-of-anti-abortion-keynote/

    University of Michigan medical students walk out of anti abortion speakers. They are studying sciences instead of witchcraft

    #231610

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muh48QsY9qo. ( Use closed captioned )

    This was the scientific exposition made before the Congress of Argentina before approving the legalization of Abortion.

    Instead of inviting Shaman and promoter of witchcraft and superstition and ignorances, they brought scientists who knew about Molecular and Celular Biology, Embryology and Histology, and proving that the concept of Human Being does not exist in Biology, the term is Life

    The term Human Being is arbitrary and it has religious influence, as well, the so called heart beat does not exist during the first weeks as the religious peoples are claiming, they are celular impulses, there is not a heart yet, or a heart beat.

    These scientists were able to demonstrate that politicians do not know anything about biology and abortion, they showed that politicians who oppose abortion are just a bunch of ignorants.

    In the USA Argentina might be called a Banana Republic ( term that is not applicable anymore, it comes from Chiquita Bananas ) has proven to be more advanced, as well, Mexico who is also a catholic federal republic also approved abortion.

    In the USA 6 backward and recalcitrants religious magistrate who do not anything about natural sciences made the decision against abortion and against women

    #231935
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    It will set the ball rolling in so many ways that was never intended.

    Georgia taxpayers can now list embryos as dependents on their tax returns. Officials added that taxpayers filing returns from 20 July onward can claim a deduction of up to $3,000 for any fetus whose heartbeat could be detected.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/02/georgia-embyros-tax-dependents-fetus

    In a news release on Monday, Georgia’s department of revenue said it would begin to “recognize any unborn child with a detectable human heartbeat … as eligible for [an] individual income tax dependent exemption”.

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