Addressing overpopulation chatter

November 2020 Forums General discussion Addressing overpopulation chatter

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    J Surman
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    I guess I’m not the only one to find the topic of overpopulation somewhat tiresome. Below is a link to a clear and easy argument against those who offer the standard mantra ad infinitum:

    Blaming the COVID-19 Pandemic on Too Many Humans: A Critique of Overpopulation Ideology

    #203200
    alanjjohnstone
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    The blog has already posted it, Janet, to give it a wider audience and agree with you on the clarity and the relevance of its explanation.

    https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2020/05/blaming-people-for-pandemic.html

    Some our worse enemies, the Malthusians, are the among our supposed closest friends, the environmentalists.

    #205047
    alanjjohnstone
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53409521

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext

    Even more evidence that over-population crisis doesn’t exist. But the ageing of population is a problem.

    The number of people will peak at 9.7 billion around 2064, before falling down to 8.8 billion by the end of the century.

    While the numbers of over-80s will go from 141 million in 2017 to 866 million in 2100.

     

     

    #205150
    alanjjohnstone
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    Another informative article debunking over-population fears

    https://newint.org/features/2020/04/07/long-read-hitting-population-brakes

    #205154
    james19
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    I made a topic, here about this.
    I responded to someone on Facebook that the birth rate was falling in some countries. Only to be: it’s not about countries?

    Prince Harry gave a lecture on global overpopulation. While he and his wife were expecting their 3rd offspring? No leading by example?

    What are these people argument?  Setting an example themselves, no children basic living? Birth control of the poor? Eugenics?

    The problem is Malthusian catastrophe began in 1798, by Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus.  I see the problem.

    #205155
    alanjjohnstone
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    The BBC had a follow up article on what they see as the implications of falling fertility rates and we witness them even now.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53424290

    It is not mentioned but the rise in the number of elderly is the reason why the BBC ended its free tv licences for the over-75s. They saw the rise in numbers  and the future cost.

    People see poverty and they see slums and they see disease and they see wars and some  like Attenborough whose expertise is with animal populations project all that on to human populations as if we have no influence or control on our own numbers. They are oblivious to the fact that we ourselves determine our conditions and surroundings.

    It is difficult to deny facts that we have been brought up to believe is true. Personally, for instance, i find it difficult to accept that certain foods i was told were healthy for me as a child, are now the cause of lifestyle illnesses.  not to mention part of the climate problem. Milk was good for me. I went to work on an egg. It is easier for society to prescribe a statin for high cholesterol than actually change a diet pattern.

    I think it is a similar problem. We live in a over-crowded highly competitive world and we see other people as a threat and it is expressed in racism, nationalism and over-populationism. It is easy to instil fear when all the evidence of the evils are so evident around us. Pointing out those as problems exacerbated by capitalism is not as simplistic as pointing a finger at a “culprit”

    As Jimmy Reid said and it is a message worth conveying “A rat race is for rats. We’re not rats. We’re human beings.”

    All we can do is keep challenging those who explain our misery by stating the facts and we have sufficient authorities to cite. Our SOYMB blog is a useful resource.

    As for family planning, the best contraceptive is female empowerment.

     

    #208455
    alanjjohnstone
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    How we can provide sustainable energy for 10 billion people at the same level as the world did for 3 billion people back in the 1960s

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307512?via%3Dihub

    A useful link for challenging those over-population alarmists.

    The ball is in their court to change the system if they want a solution.

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