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August 7, 2015 at 7:48 am in reply to: IS in the 60s: Building a revolutionary group from the ground up #113439
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ParticipantVery interesting comment ALB.Part 3http://rs21.org.uk/2015/08/05/is-in-the-60s-two-thousand-workers-with-bricks-the-roberts-arundel-strike/Part 4http://rs21.org.uk/2015/08/06/is-in-the-60s-may-68-and-after/
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Participantinteresting bit from mshttps://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-7dd3-Who-are-the-real-entryists#.VcMuT2eTV6b
August 5, 2015 at 3:11 pm in reply to: IS in the 60s: Building a revolutionary group from the ground up #113437jondwhite
ParticipantPart 2http://rs21.org.uk/2015/08/04/is-in-the-60s-linking-up-with-manchester-workers-and-fighting-racism/
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ParticipantSorry to report but the last issue of Libertarian Communist in April 2015 is the final issue. No more will be published.
July 29, 2015 at 1:56 pm in reply to: Socialist Party of America: The Complete History (2015) by Jack Ross #111112jondwhite
ParticipantIts sheer size puts it out of reach of most pockets.
July 29, 2015 at 10:45 am in reply to: Socialist Party of America: The Complete History (2015) by Jack Ross #111110jondwhite
ParticipantI now have this book and am wading my way through it.
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ParticipantConservative Home discuss Jeremy Corbyn's discussion of Marxism with Andrew Marr.http://www.conservativehome.com/video/2015/07/watch-is-jeremy-corbyn-a-marxist.html
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ParticipantRolling stone asks why sanders isn't more socialisthttp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-doesnt-bernie-sanders-run-on-a-truly-socialist-platform-20150722?page=2
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ParticipantJohn Prescott interveneshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33634194
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ParticipantOr Syriza if Prime Minister Corbyn can be cowed by a deal with the banks.
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ParticipantBlairs intervention today
Quote:Labour is heading for four election defeats if it continues to believe it can win by stepping away from the centre and offering old-school tax-and-spend policies, Tony Blair has said. He described the Labour campaign in this year’s election as old-fashioned enough to be from Star Trek and argued that shifting the party further to the left would just lengthen the period before Labour could win again. Blair said those who said their hearts are with the leftwing candidate Jeremy Corbyn should “get a transplant”.jondwhite
Participantstuartw2112 wrote:Well, not really, its aim and values have always been socialist, guided by the idea that a workers party must win power to pursue reforms within capitalism that will better workers' situation. If you accept that idea, then compromises with capitalist reality are inevitable. I think Corbyn winning would be a good thing, so am prepared to vote for him, knowing full well that the result won't be utopia instantly.I'm not looking for utopia, but I have a feeling Prime Minister Corbyn might tell a striking worker to get back to work for the good of the country/employers/industry/their salary or like Tony Benn find his arm being twisted by international banks.
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ParticipantThe ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas.Then again, Marxism isn't about creating blueprints for the future.
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Participantstuartw2112 wrote:Although, thinking about it, not relevant, at least to me. Labour is inviting people to join – people who do not anyway have other memberships or oppose their aims and values – and people who do join get to vote for the leader. So not entryism, but accepting an invitation, playing a role in the democratic process.Fair enough if you're not entryist or suggesting other entryists should join Labour, but then Labour's aims and values members are subscribing to are strike-breaking and war-mongering. The Labour party is not even an exemplary example of open primaries for candidates representing democracy at work. Don't be dazzled by this watered-down import of American politics. The Democrats and even the Republicans hold open primaries for candidates and you don't even have to register as a supporter of those parties (as far as I understand). Young Master Smeet here insists this is the state co-opting workers who don't support those parties but I think that's more about YMS's fear of open primaries and my enthusiasm for using them in the SPGB.
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