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Jeremy Hardy reports he has been barredhttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/21/jeremy-hardy-labour-rig-leadership-election-corbynAs for the SPGB approach, there does seem to be a disproportionate amount of condemnation for Corbyn and not much about the campaign against him or even the other Labour candidates. Corbyns popular and the other candidates are not, maybe the disproportionate criticism of Corbyn is about shunning popularity (not even populism) for its own sake?
Vin wrote:jondwhite wrote:600,000 have registered to vote for the next leader of the Labour partyWish they had joined us
Have an open primary and maybe they will.
600,000 have registered to vote for the next leader of the Labour partyhttp://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/600000-apply-vote-labour-leadership-contest-and-corbyn-will-gainThat's more than the peak membership of the Labour party at 500,000 in 1945.Are they all fairweather friends or evidence of the benefit of open primaries?
ALB wrote:So he was actually a member of the SWP. The only book of his I've read is It's Not A Runner Bean about what stand up comedians have to do to get started (drag themselves around from pub to pub performing before drunken audiences, if there is one).There's hypocrisy on both sides here. He's ex-SWP. The SWP denounces Labour as a "rotting corpse" yet urged workers at the last election to vote Labour where TUSC and a few other weren't standing, i.e in most constituencies. So they do support Labour in this sense. On the other hand, the Labour Party doesn't reject their votes. Or, at future elections, will Labour election addresses say (like we say about support for socialism):Quote:Don't vote for us if you do not support the aims and values of the Labour Party.That'll be the day.
The Labour party clause I reads 'Name and objects' 'Its purpose is to organise and maintain in Parliamentand in the country a political Labour PartyThe party shall bring together members and supporters who share its values to develop policies, make communities stronger through collective action and support, and promote the election of Labour Party representatives at all levels of the democratic process. The party shall give effect, as far as may be practicable, to the principles from time to time approved by party conference'And the new Clause IV elaborates'The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many not the few; where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe and where we live together freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect'Since the Labour party (and the Socialist party) can't stop people voting for them, wouldn't arguing 'don't vote for us unless you support us' be a pious instruction?The Socialist party Clause 8 merely says, 'calls upon the members of the working class of this country to muster under its banner', perhaps more emphasis could be given to this? Maybe this is a fundamentalist rethink of the kind put at the recent summer school.
Rachel Holmes is launching her book of Eleanor Marx in North London here 3rd September 7pmhttp://www.marx-memorial-library.org/index.php?option=com_civicrm&task=civicrm/event/info&Itemid=218&reset=1&id=19
Since Blair is a war criminal at large he might even be looking to save his own skin by opposing Corbyn. Blair might be about to find out just how unpopular he has become.
The shooter may have called it a feminist movie, but is it even feminist? No one suggested the promiscuity in the Wolf of Wall Street was putting a political agenda.
response on reddithttps://np.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3gf7yb/state_of_the_subreddit_address_august_9th_2015/
Black Lives Matter interrupt Sanders rallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTitIAthjA http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/09/430919017/black-lives-matter-activists-commandeer-sanders-speech-in-seattle
I was pleased to see the comparison drawn between Labour's Clause IV with the object of the SPGB
Quote:To secure for the producers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry, and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible, upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry and service.Quote:The establishment of a system of society based upon the common ownership and democratic control of the means and instruments for producing and distributing wealth by and in the interest of the whole community.ALB wrote:Which issue?issue 1070, August 6
Quote:Finally, there are organisations and publications such as the Socialist Party of Great Britain, Revolutionary Communist Group, Spiked, Salvage, Lalkar, etc. All dismiss the Labour Party as a rotting corpse.
