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ParticipantI don't think everyone else is evil but us, and have said I don't like the cover but neither Trump nor Hillary's economic policies will be good for the working class. Even assuming what they say is true (which I don't). Protectionism tends to increase prices even if jobs were kept in America which trump doesn't do with his own products.
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ParticipantA good article hherehttp://howiescorner.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/momentum-left-never-learns.html?m=1
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ParticipantSlavoj Zizek would vote for Trumphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vHSiotAFA
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ParticipantSomeone should dissect the leader writers articles in the upmarket press like those of Polly Toynbee in the Guardian or Matthew Parris in the Times.
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ParticipantALB wrote:Is the John Holliday who has a letter on the wars in the Middle East under the title "Barbarism" not also a former Party member?Yep and he has posted here on this forum once too.
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ParticipantBlimey! Did anyone find this rather undemocratic? Or did 'the left' really support single TU gen secs wielding massive block votes?
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ParticipantYoung Master Smeet wrote:Prior to 2015 you had voting by sections, MPs, Unions, Members+affiliates. So an MP would have three votes, once as an MP, once as a trade unionist and once as a member.So what changed in 1993?
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ParticipantOsama Jafar wrote:Well, my suggestion is two semultaneous processes, one is reformative & the other is transformative – the reformative one is the at once ending of soveregin state but not state itself ( ending govoernance, opening borders, moving toward productive state) with unified sallary for stat workers plus free half sallary or so to all people ( infants or elders , males or females) as their rightful produce of their ownership. The second process is the transformation towards money/state less society through steady disolve of central banking & legal tender paper money.This is more close to TZM than WSM, and it is the only realistic route as i see.A minimum and maximum program, just as has been the achilles heel of socialist parties throughout history.
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ParticipantI don't want to be too dismissive of new or untried ideas including this one but I would urge caution to avoid a backlash like thishttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306165/Margaret-Thatcher-death-parties-The-Lefts-sick-celebration-Brixtons-streets.html
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ParticipantI can't help thinking purposefully trying to generate controversy for publicity in this way would overshadow any genuine point or analysis and probably backfire on us.
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ParticipantSP membership change over Jan to Oct 16 from what I can glean is overall loss of 6. joinedleftchangeJanuary02-2February202March220April101May13-2June06-6July01-1August101September202October101 -4
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ParticipantMaybe an article would be more appropriate
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ParticipantI'm not sure they are open, I just picked up these figures at conference. They're posted without permission sought.
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ParticipantYoung Master Smeet wrote:3:The point is that wealth is created in the real economy, and banks are not the problem: we are exploited because of wages, not because of money. We could be paid in apples and it would still be exploitation.Doesn't the word 'salary' come from use of salt as currency?
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ParticipantBeing economics, it might seem more boring than what is being discussed under 'group cohesion' or 'science for communists' but if people are going to argue private banks can create credit, then we should not duck from criticising this. Not enough of the case put these days is about economics anyway.
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