[jondwhite]

Steve from San Francisco seems to be suggesting (digital) labour time vouchers now, albeit only redeemable against the presidential candidate. First it was postcards, then utopian communities, now labour time vouchers. What century are you living in because it seems like you've time travelled from the nineteenth century socialist movement, a hybrid Marxist-owenism. Lbird, take note – this is why we need Engels.

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ALB wrote:

jondwhite wrote:

These are good articles but one is 15 years old and the other 26 years old, so what has prompted their reposting?

What's wrong with posting old articles?http://bestofsocialiststandard.blogspot.co.uk/

Nothing wrong with posting old articles but if we're going to discuss them on a forum, let's have something to discuss, like saying they're the best articles, worst articles, oldest articles, newest articles, funniest articles, longest articles, shortest articles, articles on a theme, by one author etc.Also mcolome1 recommends Franz Mehring herehttp://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/general-discussion/new-trojan-horse-elf-lacan-left#comment-36394Wasn't Mehring a Leninist?

[jondwhite]

These are good articles but one is 15 years old and the other 26 years old, so what has prompted their reposting?

[jondwhite]

There was about five "socialist" experimental societies started in the decade of the 1820s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism#United_States_of_AmericaIt would seem pointless to keep repeating those failures.

[jondwhite]

If you know something about Kevin Anderson that the rest of us don't, perhaps you could share it with us?

[jondwhite]

Thanks Tim. Good suggestions.

[jondwhite]

LBird wrote:

Perhaps you see all 'professors' as 'gods'? Or is Stedman-Jones a particular favourite of yours?I'm not sure where you want this thread to go – I was keen to support and deepen the SPGB's insights from 1906.They seem to have withered and shallowed since, given the members' arguments on this site.

I'm not sure either, but I thought Stedman-Jones was agreeing with you.

[jondwhite]

LBird wrote:

jondwhite wrote:

What about Stedman-Jones?

Is that the pen-name of 'god'?

I don't know. Either that or he's a prole professor at the Uni of London.

[jondwhite]

What about Stedman-Jones?

[jondwhite]

I recommend listening to this podcasthttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/marx/7899994also just found this from 2007http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/karl-marx/3386178Lbird will find these interesting including the SS article from 1906.

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Maybe I am misunderstanding, but simply because someone tried to build a party calling itself 'socialist' doesn't make that party reformist, how do you think the WSPUS or SPC came into being? The WSPUS (nor the SPGB) weren't even the first parties calling themselves 'socialist' in their respective territories and both were founded by members of other 'socialist' parties.

[jondwhite]

How do you put genuine socialist principles in drive gear and stop them vanishing in the USA?

[jondwhite]

I'm not sure if this is new but 159 has stuff about Anarchistshttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/159

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ALB wrote:

We shan't be contesting but we will be doing something, eg holding a lterature stall, to be decided at West London branch meeting on Tuesday.

May I suggest stocking badges, t-shirts, CDs and books. The people of Richmond can likely stretch to something more substantial than a pamphlet. Maybe calendars or posters too.

[jondwhite]

Some people call Bernie a sheepdog of the left, which begs the question was Trump a sheepdog of the right? What stopped Bernie from becoming President?

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