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Our answer to "Do you Palestine to be an independent country?" just as "Does the Israeli state have a right to exist?" is a firm NO.
Here is the article by Owen Joneshttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/14/mocking-eton-boy-death-politics-of-envy-socialist-worker-article-polar-bear-attackMocking the killing of an Eton schoolboy has something in common with Class War telling Owen Jones to go back to Oxford. It is the same inverse class background snobbery, ie. inverted from the ruling-class looking down their noses at the proletariat, but instead the proletariat looking down their noses at those with a background they perceive to be ruling-class. Class War love doing this inverse class snobbery, but Owen Jones exposes it quite well in the article. The SPGB have a members who have gone to Oxford University.
The resources of the SPGB can no longer be said to be meagre.Scum is a strong word to describe the SWP, but the SWP is represented by the Socialist Worker paper not the members. The influence of ordinary members on the SWP has been shown to be negligible.The DM has covered the SWP rape crisis extensivelyhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261220/Socialist-Workers-Party-held-sharia-style-court-exonerate-party-member-accused-raping-female-comrade.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272231/A-hands-Thats-Socialist-Workers-Party-cleared-comrade-rape.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294198/Special-report-Did-Socialist-Workers-Party-cover-NINE-rapes-Kangaroo-court-cleared-official-raping-teenage-member-scandal-goes-far-deeper.htmlIf the SPGB can put the case for socialism, criticising the tastelessness of the SWP aswell as the fascist sympathies of the DM will be no problem.
The WSM has its own press, it has recently had national TV coverage, and as socialists, the WSM has not made tasteless jokes about this, so why should socialism stand condemned by this in the media and go unanswered? Or at least answered here in one topic on this forum. The SWP are scum including for the reasons mentioned by gnome and stating this latest joke is tasteless does not preclude condemning the newspapers on other grounds. If the sky is blue is reported by the Daily Mail (or Socialist Worker) it doesn't mean WSM argue the sky is not blue.Even Louis Proyect saw through Alex Callinicos' pathetic attempts to rehabilitate the SWP by appealing to notions of solidarity among the broader 'radical/revolutionary left'http://louisproyect.org/2014/07/04/alex-callinicos-take-a-look-in-the-mirror/
A class war doesn't preclude tasteful journalism. You can be concerned about a individual child as well as all children. The mainstream media increasingly resorts to fear, hysteria and exaggeration. The socialist press doesn't have to go along with this.
The danger is associating blueprints with socialism and therefore rejection of a particular blueprint with rejection of socialism.
SWP are scum. The Indy report this toohttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/socialist-worker-called-to-apologise-over-vile-article-saying-eton-schoolboy-horatio-chapples-death-is-reason-to-save-the-polar-bears-9597931.htmlAs far as I know Class War didn't actually joke about a child being killed. Also SWP National Secretary Charlie Kimber is an old Etonian.
Halfway through the year nearly, any further thoughts on this? Or how to persuade members to participate in activities already arranged and future activities? And in particular non-members?
Would ALL commodity production cease and ALL production occur solely for use? Would goods and services be from each according to his ability, to each according to his need?
SocialistCenter wrote:No, we are not in the favour of free market. We believe that government should intervene in the interest of all.I'm sure you do, but what do you think the government is intervening in? The tendency "democratic socialism" as is commonly used (in the GDH Cole sense) is generally understood to have some level of market activity in existence.
