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KeymasterQuote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbynJewish leaders also argued Labour should adopt the IHRA definition – including all its clauses and examples. However, Labour is concerned about one of the examples of potential antisemitism given in the IHRA definition: “denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, eg by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavour”.As are we. This is a clause sneaked in to try to make anti-Zionism anti-semitc. Apart from that, the definition is more or less ok even if a bit tendentious.
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KeymasterWhat hypocrites the government and the tame media are. The UK would never engage in such cloak and dagger stuff as Russia. Or would it?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44070304The only reason they are "apologising" power is that the situation in Libya has changed. Incidentally, it happened under a Labour government.
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KeymasterAnyone tempted to take this offer up should be advised that the regulars in the politics section there are a nasty and vicious lot. They specialise in tearing to pieces any newcomers. I've seen it happen many times. It's not like other forums.
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KeymasterTrump says he has revoked that nuclear treaty because of the "malign influence" of Iran in the region. But that's not the only "malign influence" there. There's also the US and its ally Saudi Arabia and the "rogue states" there it can't control, Turkey and Israel. All the states involved there are pursuing the economic and strategic interests of their ruling class, It's capitalism and the conflicts of interest it generates between states that is the real "malign influence" in the Middle East and the rest of the world.
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KeymasterWhy all this stuff from obscure parts of the US when there's a referendum on the subject being held in a couple of weeks on our doorstep?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43569193
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KeymasterBijou Drains wrote:The motion states “groups and individuals”, the SPC is neither of things, it is a political party and part of the World Socialist Movement. I would argue that the motion doesn’t and was never intended to cover this situation.I don't know if you were active in internal Party affairs at the time but this matter has a "history". When it was passed it unleashed a huge controversy on spintcom, with accusations that the EC had infringed it, calls for their resignation, etc. See the contributions to Spintcom in June 2006.Here's some extracts:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SPINTCOM/conversations/messages/5624https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SPINTCOM/conversations/messages/5628https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SPINTCOM/conversations/messages/5642https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SPINTCOM/conversations/messages/5664Ever since the motion has been interpreted as meaning that the Party can't send money to anyone abroad. To change this interpretation now risks re-igniting the controversy.The best way out is to rescind or amend the resolution.
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KeymasterI don't think we can use that argument as the intention of the movers was clear (it goes without saying that we can't give money to non-socialists). Personally I voted against it and didn't and still don't agree with it. I am imagine you are in the same position. In fact at that Conference most of the delegates were against it too, but the membership vote didn't back them and the motion was carried. Democracy is democracy and we have to abide by resolutions that we don't agree with.As I mentioned, when the Indian party asked for money (I think it was them — our retiring Treasurer will know) provision was made for individual members to pay.
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KeymasterHere is somebody who was both a socialist and a pensioner activist:https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/14/helen-grew-obituary
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KeymasterIt's not the title of the pamphlet but of the review/write-up of it.
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Keymasteralanjjohnstone wrote:Maybe do Sylvia Pankhurst's two essays Future Society and Socialism with an intro by ourselves?Just an ideaI don't think we need to reprint anything by Pannekoek, but those two articles by Pankhurst is a good idea. At the May Day rally in Clerkenwell the "Revolutionary Communist Group" (who publish Fight Racism, Fight Imperialism and think that workers in Britain share in the exploitation of workers in the Third World) had a banner with portraits of Sylvia Pankhurst and John Maclean. I'm not sure why they like her but in any event it's publicity for her name.
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KeymasterI don't think unfortunately we can do that as, following being scammed by people in Uganda and Ukraine there's a Conference Resolution saying we can't send actual money to socialists abroad. Here's what was voted in 2006:
Quote:This Conference rules that the Party shall cease sending money grants to overseas groups or individuals, but shall continue to give every assistance to socialist activities abroad by way of printing and dispatching campaign material from Head Office.I am sure the EC can find other ways of helping the SPC financially, e.g. not charging them for the Standard and pamphlets, inviting individuals to direct send money to Canada.
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KeymasterIncluding a copy of Martov's State and the Socialist Revolution. Three more are being despatched from Head Office to Cardiff. We always sell at least one of these at this sort of meeting (as at Clerkenwell on this 1 May). There seems to be some interest amongst Leninists and ex-Leninists in Marx without Lenin.
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KeymasterDa iawn, butt..
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Keymasterjondwhite wrote:Why are Turks any more nationalist than Brits?Their nationalism is more intense because the Turkish State has not been in existence as long so that its partisans have had to wage a more recent and more determined struggle to get support against conservative ideas such as nostalgia for the Ottoman Empire, Islam, etc. There was an article which touched on this in the March Socialist Standard:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2018/no-1363-march-2018/turkey-whats-goingIn Britain the stuff put out by the so-called "Communist Party of Britain Marxist-Leninist" on Brexit is virtually indistinguisable from that put out by UKIP. See for example the front cover and content of their pamphlet Take Control which can be downloaded from their site (it's on the right):https://www.cpbml.org.uk/
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KeymasterNo it wouldn't work. Speaking as a car driver, it's a crackpot idea. Cyclists are already enough of a problem.In the Lambeth Central by-election in 1978 Commander Boaks was amongst our opponents. He finished bottom well below us:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambeth_Central_by-election,_1978
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