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On the other hand, he has redeemed himself with this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/stephen-hawking-claims-no-possibility-god-last-book-ncna921806
By coincidence (unless others contributing to this thread have also had it) I received yesterday an email expressing in its pure form the conspiracy theory that Rothschild financed Das Kapital. Here it is:
“MARX NEVER ONCE MENTIONED ROTHSCHILD. IN HIS MAGNUM OPUS ‘DAS KAPITAL’, THE SO-CALLED RESULT OF 20 YEARS OF RESEARCH, A TOME OF SUPPOSED SOCIO-ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL EXPOSE … AND NEVER ONCE TALKS ABOUT THE ROTHSCHILDS OR THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING AND FINANCE SCHEMES THAT DOMINATED EUROPE. IN THE REALM OF ECONOMICS, THERE WAS NO GREATER FORCE THAN THAT OF ROTHSCHILD. SO HOW DOES MARX JUST SOMEHOW COMPLETELY OMIT MENTION OF IT. it needs to be said that Marx was an agent of Rothschild, tasked with weaponizing political philosophy so that the elite could import it to foster civil unrest and even civil war in countries unfriendly to their banking and finance schemes. This they did in Germany and, especially, Russia. May the fact that Marx was hell-bent on misinforming and destroying humanity further contribute to the notion that he was a Satanist? -of the breed of satanic elite that seems to bleed out of the Holy Roman Empire, through the Vatican and it’s Jesuits, and it’s Jewish front as Zionism?? ”
The email also contained a quote from Bakunin endorsing this conspiracy theory (apart from the Satanist part). He may even have been its originator.
ZJW wrote:
I hope that the one on zionism/anti-semitism will be considerably better than this semi- potboiler that the CWO thinks highly of — Zionism and Marxism
I have now read this and, to be honest, I found it quite interesting on the history of leftwing Jewish nationalism. Ok it makes Lenin out to be less of a supporter of nationalism than in fact he was but that’s another issue.
Not read that CWO “semi potboiler” but will. No need to worry. It is not based on Postone’s convoluted theory. It’s a reprint of articles from the Socialist Standard from 1918 through 1937, 1946, 1948, 1961, etc to 2007 with an introduction (which has already been published in the September Socialist Standard). It so happens that 2 of the 8 articles were written by Stefan. I don’t know how quickly, given the other problems at the moment on this site that need dealing with, it will be before it is up here but paper copies are available.
The introduction can be found here:
But first we’ve got to give a resounding NO to this outrageous suggestion to be disccussed at Autumn Delegate Meeting this weekend: “Should Summer School go vegetarian?”
Don’t forget the greenhouse gases released by the military which I hadn’t realised till recently were explicitly excluded from agreements like Kyoto.
The title of this article is misleading as although the military’s contribution to greenhouse gas emissions will no longer be exempted automatically, it still will be in practice.
Anyway, all this will go in socialism too.
Sorry that was me not an ex cathedra statement from Head Office. I was at HO yesterday and forgot to change who was logged in.
“10. Future Propaganda Activities. Bruce proposes a trip to see a performance of “The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists” at Earlsfield in London, in October. Bruce agrees to send information to interested parties.”
Details here: townsendproductions.org.uk/shows/a-new-one-man-magic-lantern-show-of-the-classic-book-the-ragged-trouseed-philanthropists/
It’s in Earlsfield on Wednesday 24, Thursday 25 and Saturday 27 October. Has the branch chosen the date yet as I am sure London members might like to come too?
As I see it’s touring the country till next May I’ll post details under Events too in case members outside London want to see it too. Let’s hope it’s not Labour Party propaganda like the last one I saw.
I don’t think the large size or the italics has to do with Alan J’s eyesight. It seems to be built into <blockquote . Another minor glitch to iron out?
You weren’t supposed to read the article. I didn’t tackle it either. That’s why I watched the video where he explains what he is trying to get at with a minimum of algebra. Basically, as Ricardo and Marx say that the value of a commodity is determined by the amount of labour required to produce it, not just at the last stage of its production but from start to finish, Ian Wright is trying to find a formula to take this into account where there is production for profit.
This involves counting not just the labour that went to produce the materials used at the last stage but the labour that went into producing those materials and then the labour that went into producing the materials those materials used, and so on. As Ricardo put it:
If we look to a state of society in which greater improvements have been made, and in which arts and commerce flourish, we shall still find that commodities vary in value conformably with this principle: in estimating the exchangeable value of stockings, for example, we shall find that their value, comparatively with other things, depends on the total quantity of labour necessary to manufacture them, and bring them to market. First, there is the labour necessary to cultivate the land on which the raw cotton is grown; secondly, the labour of conveying the cotton to the country where the stockings are to be manufactured, which includes a portion of the labour bestowed in building the ship in which it is conveyed, and which is charged in the freight of the goods; thirdly, the labour of the spinner and weaver; fourthly, a portion of the labour of the engineer, smith, and carpenter, who erected the buildings and machinery, by the help of which they are made; fifthly, the labour of the retail dealer, and of many others, whom it is unnecessary further to particularize. The aggregate sum of these various kinds of labour, determines the quantity of other things for which these stockings will exchange, while the same consideration of the various quantities of labour which have been bestowed on those other things, will equally govern the portion of them which will be given for the stockings.
I’m not sure that this could be done in practice but Ian Wright was trying to show that it could be in theory be done even when there is capital investment for profit.
By the way, if you can’t do maths you might be denied access to this forum. I had to answer what is 1 x one.
Eureka. That was a quote from Alan J. Now I now how to do bold and italics as well.
Why does the passage quoted appear so large?OK. Should have ended /blockquote. Like this (I hope).
I am not accustomed to having to do html to use bold or italics or whatever. Was bad enough having to quote/unquote on the old forum to copy and paste.
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I am not accustomed to having to do html to use bold or italics or whatever. Was bad enough having to quote/unquote on the old forum to copy and paste. </quote>
That didn’t work either. What I was trying to do was quote something using <blockquote cite= What should I have done?
