The Starmer Labour government
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June 4, 2025 at 1:26 pm #258643
james19
ParticipantStarmer has said he will ensure the WFA (Winter Fuel Allowance) will now be paid.
Starmer has said that the maximum two child allowance would be scrapped.
Starmer wasn’t alone in scrapping the two child allowances. Farage has said he would do the same. I’m interested in knowing why Farage would be in favour of this? Any ideas?
On TikTok I watched a video where there was criticism of Starmer for this, the last part. Giving the tired old reason s, I won’t repeat here.
What was a shock that large families will receive a ‘windfall’. Is the government going to back date the benefit?
The poster was clearly trying to be alarmist and vindictive.
Can it describe the extra child allowance as a ‘windfall’?I gave up listening to his argument? If he did some research, 1m children go to school without a breakfast. Free school dinners are means tested and seen as degrading, stigmatised and humiliating, for a child who receives it.
1m children are living in poverty.From a socialist perspective, family allowance is paid to reduce real wages.
Starmer has said nothing about WASPI?
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June 4, 2025 at 1:38 pm #258647james19
ParticipantIt goes without saying. There is no money for welfare benefits. Starmer is cutting benefits for the sick and disabled!
A Labour government can find billions for wars.
June 4, 2025 at 11:50 pm #258657Thomas_More
ParticipantJune 5, 2025 at 7:13 am #258658ALB
KeymasterYes. Governments’ spending priorities are (and have to be):
1. Creating the best conditions for profit-making.
2. Military spending, currently openly called “preparations for war spending” (used to be called “defence” spending).
3. Spending on meeting people’s needs (health, education, welfare).
In that order.
The Starmer Labour government is not reluctantly or apologetically applying these priorities as some previous Labour governments have, but openly and enthusiastically.
June 5, 2025 at 6:11 pm #258667Thomas_More
ParticipantGung-ho, by jingo!
June 22, 2025 at 2:47 pm #259021ALB
KeymasterI don’t know who these people are or where they are coming from but it’s something to put into the dossier on the current Labour government:
Of course Labour never had any “socialist values” to “step away from” but they do seem to be stepping way from the reformist values they once proclaimed and are just into managing capitalism in accordance to how the system requires.
June 25, 2025 at 6:35 pm #259161Thomas_More
ParticipantFrantically anti-working class. Which brings to mind the “resilience” he says we need: the resilience to endure his vicious rule!
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June 25, 2025 at 7:12 pm #259163ALB
KeymasterThey got plenty of money for some things:
June 25, 2025 at 7:28 pm #259164Thomas_More
ParticipantJust out of interest, a question for any here who have school-age children. What happens these days to schoolchildren who refuse, as children of party members, to stand for the national anthem or take part in the new militarism?
July 6, 2025 at 10:29 pm #259410ALB
KeymasterTo give them their due, a revolt by a large number of Labour MPs did force the government to water down and postpone — but not abandon — its plan to cut disability benefits.
Meanwhile it appears that a majority of Labour Party members want the government “to move to the left”. But when have Labour Party members decided what the government does?
https://labourlist.org/2025/06/news-labour-polling-survation-left-move/
July 16, 2025 at 9:41 am #259609ALB
KeymasterSome Laborites are using the S-word again. After Zarah Sultana MP defected to Corbyn tweeting that the issue at the next general election will be “Socialism or barbarism”, a comrade has found this from another Labour MP:
“Labour MP Dawn Butler has told the Byline Festival that she is thinking about running for Mayor of London, as she declared that figures within her party need to start understanding that socialism “isn’t a dirty word”.
In an apparent criticism of the current leadership, she added that, “I think there are too many people at the moment in the Labour Party that don’t understand the Labour Party.
“They don’t understand that we were born from the trade union movement. They don’t understand that we are a Socialist Party, and that’s not a dirty word, and they don’t f***ing understand.”Labour MP Dawn Butler Says She Is Thinking of Running for London Mayor
I wonder what the two of them mean by “socialism”. Maybe we should ask them?
July 16, 2025 at 10:52 am #259610Thomas_More
ParticipantYes, we should. Challenge them to a public debate. And ask them “If not, why not?”
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