Sunday Mail discovers how banks work
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June 17, 2025 at 6:23 am #258873
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ParticipantWhy aren’t they printing money ?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/06/17/ougu-j17.html
Gold now number two reserve asset in international financial system
A report by the European Central Bank (ECB) issued last week pointed to the growing lack of international confidence in the role of the US dollar as the global reserve currency.
According to the ECB, gold accounted for 20 percent of the global reserves held by central banks, outstripping the euro at 16 percent and coming second to the dollar at 46 percent.
June 18, 2025 at 11:11 am #258902ALB
KeymasterMore on how the central bank in Britain gets more money into circulation from David Smith, Economics Editor of the Sunday Times in his column into today’s Times.
“Commercial banks, overwhelmingly the high street banks we all use, always retain some reserves at the Bank [of England]. Under the regulatory environment in which they operate, they need to hold high-quality liquid assets to draw on when they need liquidity, and reserves at the Bank are perhaps the easiest form of such assets. Those normal reserves were swelled by quantitative easing (QE). Under what was colloquially known as ‘printing money’, commercial banks’ reserves were created at the Bank. Andrew Bailey, its governor, describes them as ‘ultimate form of money’”.
What happened was that the Bank bought government bonds off the banks and paid for them by increasing a bank’s reserves with it. That solves Link’s mystery of how new electronic money gets into circulation. It is created by the central bank and distributed via the commercial banks.
June 18, 2025 at 11:49 am #258903Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantMurabaha or cost plus selling: This is the most common product in asset portfolios and applies only to commodity purchase. Instead of taking out an interest loan to buy something, the customer asks the bank to purchase an item and sell to him or her at a higher price on instalment. The bank’s profit is determined beforehand and the selling price cannot be increased once the contract is signed. In case of late or default payment, different options are available including a third-party guarantee, collateral guarantees on the client’s belongings or a penalty fee to be paid to an Islamic charity since it can’t enter the bank’s revenues.
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June 18, 2025 at 12:35 pm #258909ALB
KeymasterActually the deleted link could have been posted here too as the practices of Islamic banks are also relevant for the discussion here.
“Murabaha or cost plus selling: This is the most common product in asset portfolios and applies only to commodity purchase. Instead of taking out an interest loan to buy something, the customer asks the bank to purchase an item and sell to him or her at a higher price on instalment.
Ijara or leasing: Instead of issuing a loan for a customer to buy a product like car, the bank buys the product and then leases it to the customer. The customer acquires the item at the end of the lease contract.”
These practices of Islamic banks raise an awkward question for Thin-airists: where does the bank get the money from to buy what it re-sells or leases to customers? Does it simply decide to create it from nothing or must it have the money already? The answer is obvious.
It is also poses a problem for the conventional theory that banks create money when they make a loan: does an Islamic bank do so when it buys something for a customer since no extra deposits are created?
June 18, 2025 at 12:41 pm #258911Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantThe Sicilian mafia used similar procedures in order to lend money for business financing
June 24, 2025 at 9:28 am #259069ALB
KeymasterHere’s another demonstration that, when it comes down to it, bankers themselves and financial journalists when describing things don’t really think that banks are able to create credit out of thin air.
There was an article in yesterday’s Times which, in passing, notes as a matter of established fact that:
“Usually savings provide the money for businesses to borrow, invest and grow. However, despite the increase in
savings, UK investment remains dismally low.”No suggestion that money for businesses to borrow to invest could come from anywhere else (even though the article goes on to mix up “investment” by businesses with people “investing” their savings on the stock exchange rather than holding them in interest-yielding bank accounts).
July 1, 2025 at 9:30 am #259320ALB
KeymasterI know it’s a bit like kicking an opponent when they’re down but here’s another everyday routine acceptance that banks need deposits to function.
It’s from today’s Times and is about a government plan to reduce “cash ISAs” (savings with banks, etc whose interest is tax-free) to encourage savers to instead gamble on the stock exchange by getting tax-free dividends.
According to the news item, building societies (which are banks specialising in lending money to people to buy a house), “which rely on cash ISAs as an important source of funding, have also warned restrictions could affect lending”.
If, as banks, they could lend without funding how come that this could affect their lending?
July 1, 2025 at 5:29 pm #259331Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantBanks, capitalists, bankers, financial school, capitalist governments, banking schools, shark loans lenders, pawn shops, all contradict the false conceptions of the money crankers. Their conceptions have been debunked several times, they can write thousands of books, and they are all wrongs. Several of them call themselves Marxists and Karl Marx has contradicted them too. They should rest their case and quit
July 7, 2025 at 5:39 pm #259441Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantAnd banks continue going belly up and they have not created any money to solve their problems
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