Royal power

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    Young Master Smeet
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    Further to our recent article in the Standard, it appears that the Guardian has won it's Freedom of Information request.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills?CMP=twt_gu

    It appears the Royals are hiding behind the doctrine that they only act on Ministerial advice; however, given that we know that the Monarch may "advise, encourage and warn" ministers in secret, we can't know how much of that ministerial advice in turn is based on reflecting back the Royal's wishes to themselves.

    This is the Government guidance:

    http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/sites/default/files/resources/QC_PC_pamphlet_191212.pdf

    It quotes a journal article, which plainly states:

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    Uniquely among anyone who might be affected by a
    public general Bill, the monarch’s permission is essential before any Bill touching the Crown may be passed by either House of Parliament. If such a Bill lacks such permission it cannot be passed:36 if it is passed without it, it is null and void.

    An example on which the crown was required to give consent was:

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    A.17 On the bill for the Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007, Queen’s
    consent was required for provisions enabling the prosecution of the Crown Estate
    Commissioners (a body corporate under section 1 of the Crown Estates Act 1961) for
    corporate manslaughter or corporate homicide. On the basis that any resulting fine would be
    paid from Crown Estate revenues, the bill could affect the hereditary revenues of the Crown.
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    SocialistPunk
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    The Sex Pistols were closer to the truth than most thought.A family subverting even the limited democracy of this country for their gain.Gawd bless em. They do a grand job, aint no mistake. God save the queen The fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb God save the queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming Don't be told what you want Don't be told what you need There's no future, no future, No future for you God save the queen We mean it man We love our queen God saves God save the queen 'Cause tourists are money And our figurehead Is not what she seems Oh God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord God have mercy All crimes are paid When there's no future How can there be sin We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in your human machine We're the future, your future God save the queen We mean it man We love our queen God saves God save the queen We mean it man And there is no future In England's dreaming No future, no future, No future for you No future, no future, No future for me No future, no future, No future for you No future, no future For you

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