Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill

May 2021 Forums General discussion Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill

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    james19
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    Just seen this..

    This Legislation is not much different than the restrictions on Union to take industrial action. Justifying it on the grounds that strikes “are an inconvenience.”
    Welcome to the class war.

    The Government are so angry about the toppling of the #Colston Statue by #BLM protesters that they’ve upped the penalty for damaging statues to a maximum ten year sentence.

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    #215346
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster
    #215362
    alanjjohnstone
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    The latest development has been the excuse of the pandemic to disperse Reclaim the Night protest at Clapham Common rather than exercise discretion as they had with last years BLM?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/14/sarah-everard-vigil-police-extra-powers-met-brutal-women-priti-patel-protests

    Could it be because the focus was upon them, the police?

    “One Tory MP said colleagues had concerns about parts of the bill but it was drawn up in the wake of demonstrations by Extinction Rebellion. It was necessary to tackle the group’s “dreadfully disruptive” tactics of non-violent protest, the MP claimed.”

    A look at our Extinction Rebellion thread will confirm some members warnings that it would lead to a backlash

    #215370
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I think I heard right but the media mentioned “Reclaim the Streets” as behind the court action to overturn the ban on that vigil on Clapham Common (incidentally an unwise move as the law, like it or not, is clear, and I was always told “if you don’t like the answer, don’t ask the question).

    Is this the same group as was active in the 1990s in various attempts to stop motorways and by-passes being built (all of which failed)? We even debated with them.

    Have they recycled themselves as a feminist group or has someone revived their name?

    #215372
    james19
    Participant

    AJJ. Good article. Great minds think alike. Mentioned on Facebook about the police killing of Jean Charles de Menezes at Stockwell tube station. The death of teacher Blair Peach by the SPG Unit (Special Patrol Group, since disbanded) in Southall on a rally against the Anti Nazis League. The weapon (a mental cosh) was found in a police locker, only used by the SPG. But there was no evidence to who owned the weapons?
    I posted on Twitter (Transphobia*) that women are second class citizens……Levi Bellfield and Robert Napper, who police failed to arrest, (missed the chance to arrest) leading to the murder of more woman. (Wimbledon Common and Walton on Thames.) Unfortunately, the Women’s Day protests in Mexico, where Government figures suggest at least 939 women were victims of femicide in 2020, I didn’t get to tweet about these horrific murders on Twitter because of time.

    I’ve been replying to tweets that Couzens (prior to being charged) is innocent until proven guilty and you can’t tarnish all police…..
    This didn’t apply in the George Floyd case……ALL Afro Americans were seen as culpable as George Floyd!
    The same didn’t apply to the 3 boys and the manslaughter of PC Harper. ALL Roma people were just as culpable. Let’s keep the same energy.
    As the UK is no longer in the EU, and come under the European Convention on Human Rights, a case can’t be brought at ECHR in Strausberg. Can this new amendments of the bill be put before the Courts? Which Courts?
    YFS

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    #215382
    Wez
    Participant

    I don’t remember any candle lit vigils or royal visits for Stephen Lawrence.

    #215383
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    As the UK is no longer in the EU, and come under the European Convention ON Human Rights, a case can’t be brought at ECHR in Strausberg.

    The European Court of Human Rights is a court of the Council of Europe and nothing to do with the EU. Britian joined the Council of Europe in 1949 and ratified the European Convention on Human Rights in 1953. The Human Rights Act incorporated the ECHR into British Law. Despite what Farage and the slack jawed loons say, leaving the EU has had no impact on this. The Human Rights Act still applies and all UK citizens have eventual recourse to the ECHR

    #215389
    james19
    Participant

    bijou-drains Many thanks. 👍

    Labour plan to vote against the Parti Patel Bill.
    https://news.sky.com/story/labour-to-vote-against-priti-patels-crime-legislation-mess-sparking-row-over-womens-safety-12245852

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    #215390
    james19
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    George Floyd: Three men arrested after ‘totally unacceptable’ damage to mural in Manchester

    Lets keep the same energy

    https://news.sky.com/story/three-men-arrested-after-totally-unacceptable-damage-to-george-floyd-mural-in-manchester-12245798

    #215409
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    James 19 –
    One of the facts of history that the UKIPers, swilled eyed head bangers, Ultra tories, et al, hate having pointed out to them is that it was their hero Winston Churchill who was the PM when Britain ratified the European Convention on Human Rights.

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    james19
    Participant

    COVID didn’t apply for football fans. They had a POLICE escort!

    #215428
    james19
    Participant

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    Ironically, police are members of the working class, they are salaried employees of the private repressive organ of the capitalist class known as the state, as well, the members of the armed forces, are also members of the working class. The workers who are employed by the armaments industry to produce guns to kill other workers are also members of the working class. I do remember when many Blanquists used to kill a poor policeman to take his gun to be used for the so-called workers’ revolution

    #215854
    james19
    Participant

    Seeing recent events, is this the total opposite of what Government are trying to achieve? It’s own Arab Spring? Australia held demonstrations in support of the people in Britain. Could it catch on? Lol

    I replied to a post saying people are breaking the law, COVID restrictions. I should have replied with: the bombing of schools (Syria) is a war ‘crime.’ The use of Chemical weapons is also illegal and there use is a war crime!

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    robbo203
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