Philosophers do not govern the world, “Wants and their Satisfaction” do: A Case For Socialism

April 2024 Forums General discussion Philosophers do not govern the world, “Wants and their Satisfaction” do: A Case For Socialism

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    Anonymous
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    LBird wrote:
    Vin Maratty wrote:
    Another load bollocks from LBird. Same rubbish on every thread. 

    I'll leave Paramjeet and Steve in your capable hands then, shall I, Vin?

    Quite frankly I think you should, because your brand of 'obscurantism', rather than providing much needed clarity is simply muddying the waters still further.

    #102346
    moderator1
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    Vin Maratty wrote:
    I have sent you private messages but you ignored them and allowed the attackes against me to continue.How else do I communicate my disatisfaction and ask that the attacks be dealt with?Why don't you answer my private messages and explain why you have allowed this to continue Why dont you simply warn the perpetrator ?

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    #102347
    moderator1
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    Vin Maratty wrote:
    Moderation Rule Bookrule 1  Call marattyy whatever you want, feel free we will do nothing as he already has a bad name around hererule 2  Soon as maratty responds issue a warningrule 3 this will  piss maratty off enough and the EC will never let him back in and it will be proved that we were right  all along   

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    #102348
    LBird
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    gnome wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    Vin Maratty wrote:
    Another load bollocks from LBird. Same rubbish on every thread. 

    I'll leave Paramjeet and Steve in your capable hands then, shall I, Vin?

    Quite frankly I think you should, because your brand of 'obscurantism', rather than providing much needed clarity is simply muddying the waters still further.

    Well, your clear-sighted thinking, along with Vin's obvious talents, will be enough to advise Paramjeet, then, won't they?Yeah, the world's 'so obvious', isn't it, gnome? There isn't really a problem for socialists, in their relation to workers. Just keep saying "it's obvious" to them, and they'll be attracted in droves, just like always.

    #102349
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    gnome wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    Vin Maratty wrote:
    Another load bollocks from LBird. Same rubbish on every thread. 

    I'll leave Paramjeet and Steve in your capable hands then, shall I, Vin?

    Quite frankly I think you should, because your brand of 'obscurantism', rather than providing much needed clarity is simply muddying the waters still further.

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    #102350
    moderator1
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    LBird wrote:
    gnome wrote:
    LBird wrote:
    Vin Maratty wrote:
    Another load bollocks from LBird. Same rubbish on every thread. 

    I'll leave Paramjeet and Steve in your capable hands then, shall I, Vin?

    Quite frankly I think you should, because your brand of 'obscurantism', rather than providing much needed clarity is simply muddying the waters still further.

    Well, your clear-sighted thinking, along with Vin's obvious talents, will be enough to advise Paramjeet, then, won't they?Yeah, the world's 'so obvious', isn't it, gnome? There isn't really a problem for socialists, in their relation to workers. Just keep saying "it's obvious" to them, and they'll be attracted in droves, just like always.

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    #102351
    steve colborn
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    Post 5We, as Socialists, see the "reality" all around us, every day. We do not find it a very edifying sight, nor one that is in the best interests of the majority of humans on the planet. When a tiny, infinitesimal amount of people, live in unalloyed opulence, whilst we, the majority, live in varying degrees of want, squalor, poverty and insecurity and as aware, class-conscious individuals and moreover, a Socialist movement, we are moved to act and put forward the alternative, a society based on common ownership, where the world and everything in and on it, belong to us all. It is incumbent, therefore, for anyone who shares our "goals", to stop sitting on the sidelines and to get involved in the nitty gritty of working vfor and organising toward, a new and better society!!!Steve Colborn.There can be no confusion as to the "reality" that is being discussed! As Socialists, but just as importantly, as workers, we not only see this reality but live it and undergo it every single day. We do not need to go into narrow, pedantic discussions of what "reality really is", we see this every day when we have trouble paying our bills, or simply putting food on the table. When as unemployed workers, we are traduced by the "state" but more perversely by our "fellow workers" of being idle, workshy, scrounging parasites!!! This "is" the reality workers see and live.What we as Socialists do and do well, is to draw the attention of our "fellows", to the contradictions inherent in Capitalism! Contradictions which our masters try to hide, or explain away, by layers of cant, hypocritical nonsense, obfuscation and outrights lies.Myself, I try not to hide the contradictions, or wrap them up in intellectual jargon, just for the sake of it! I try to call a spade a spade and a lying, duplicitous, self-serving pro capitalist politician, just that! I call a Capitalist a parasite, because in essence, that is what he and they are! They take without concern for the "host". Unlike a leech however, sucking blood until gorged, then falling off until the next time it needs a good feed, the Capitalists are never "full", nor "satisfied", nor "sated" but just go on sucking the life blood from their host/hosts, the working class, knowing full well that in the self perpetuating system that Capitalism is, workers are replaced and so the cycle continues, of the class exploitation of the working class majority.This is the reality, our reality and does not need long winded prose to explain it! Keep it simple, keep it real but most importantly, keep it relevant comrades!!!Be well alland keep up the struggle : )

    #102352
    Anonymous
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    That's a very good post, Steve. Very much in touch with the truth of the realities of capitalism.  The 'truth hurts' as the saying goes which is how we know it exists. 

    #102353
    steve colborn
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    That's a very good post, Steve. Very much in touch with the truth of the realities of capitalism.  The 'truth hurts' as the saying goes which is how we know it exists.The world and its resources should not be owned and controlled by a tiny minority; they are the common heritage of all humanki Indeed we do and it is Vin. the truth not only hurts, it kills in the 100's of millions. To argue about a point here, or a point there, is to insult our brothers and sisters and to make their lives a sham and moreover futile! This comrades, is what we need to get our "heads" around, make sense of and eventually, provide a conduit with which "our class", can eventually get rid of this appaling travesty, that our "betters" pass off as civilisation!!!It's so funny, I've just wet my pants : (Steve Colborn.Never, in the field of societal history, has so much, been ripped off, off so many, by so few!!!!!!!!

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