Pathfinders: Guns, Gays and the NRA

May 2024 Forums Comments Pathfinders: Guns, Gays and the NRA

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    Nice to see an article talking about homophobia!Though I was slightly concerned with the fifth paragraph. How many liberals are there exactly who claim that there aren't a muslims who are homophobes? I'm just asking because this is something that a few xenophobes on the right tend to claim.I am an Atheist and wish to see people stop believing in any kind of god, even if they're not aggressive, but I am under the impression that there are quite a lot of Muslims who don't want to actively murder homosexuals(though certainly homophobia is something a lot of Muslims suffer from). There are different degrees of homophobic behaviour(not saying that that people shouldn't reject all types of homophobia).I don't know, this paragraph gave me the impression of something a rightwinger would have written.Also, I want to be clear that this is a view from a non-member(though I agree with a lot of writings from the SPGB).

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    If I understand the question right, the article doesn't say that liberals claim that Moslems are not homophobic. They know perfectly well that homophobia is a big problem, just as it is in many Christian groups. The article took the view that when it comes to criticism of Islamic homophobia there is a tacit 'hands off' policy among western liberals to go easy rather than apply the same criticism they would of other groups. The reasons for this are many and obvious, and to do with notions of 'the greater good'.But workers who are victimised, tortured and murdered, whether it's for their union activities or something as trivial as their sexuality, need to be defended and spoken up for, not smoothed out of polite discussion.  Christian groups like the Church of England are currently torn apart over the gay debate, with common sense at war with scripture, but at least there is some kind of debate. What Orlando has done, apart from putting the LGBT community unwillingly in the front line, is demonstrate the need for that debate in Moslem circles as well. The socialist cause can hardly advance without these basic divisions being addressed in all cultures.
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