Our Euroelection campaign
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May 27, 2019 at 8:15 am #186676JClark96Participant
It’s a difficult one. On the one hand perhaps we could have polled more, and got closer to 5k+, by “taking a side”. However, I do think it’s a case of quality not quantity. We convinced 3 thousand people that you don’t have to take a side in these capitalist debates (and no doubt made others at least think). That’s better than convincing 10 thousand by taking a side on the matter.
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May 27, 2019 at 8:48 am #186678ALBKeymasterForgot to add that there were 13,648 spoilt votes. I saw the ones at Guildford and a lot of them were deliberate protests about the election being held, so if you like votes for Brexit.
At the count in Southampton Mike and me chatted with the Independent candidate Jason McMahon who seemed to have some sympathy with Yaris Varouflakis and the European Spring grouping.
May 27, 2019 at 12:43 pm #186689ALBKeymasterI copied a figure down wrong. The result in Brighton was not 103 but 180. Not that bad then. We need to find a way to getting a group going there again.
May 27, 2019 at 4:02 pm #186701imposs1904ParticipantCan someone eventually provide a breakdown of the vote via each parliamentary constituency?
The geek in me is always fascinated by that sort of thing.
May 27, 2019 at 5:41 pm #186702ALBKeymasterA comrade did that for the 2014 Euroelections and I’m sure he’ll do it again for these when all the results are readily available. But it won’t be by Westminster constituency, but by “counting areas” which correspond to the 67 local councils in the area.
May 29, 2019 at 8:08 am #187065ALBKeymasterThe figures for most of the counting areas (local councils) are now available. They confirm that, although our vote fell nearly everywhere, it fell more in Remain strongholds. The top 5 in percentage terms are: Hastings (0.31), Folkestone & Hythe (0.23), Basingstoke (0.23), Dover (0.22) and Brighton and Reading (both 0.20). Oxford, the capital of Remainia (it voted 67% for the Remain parties), which last time was No 1, is way down at equal tenth with Canterbury and Runnymede.
Hastings and Basingstoke (one of the few places where the number of our votes went up) both voted Leave. Folkestone (where we have put in a lot of work in local elections) and Dover both benefitted from free postal distribution, which suggests that this does increase the numbers voting for us. I haven’t found the figures for Milton Keynes (which voted Leave) or Maidstone (where there was free postal distribution) which might confirm these conclusions.
For the record, the worst place is no longer Surrey Heath (where our vote actually increased from 20 to 29) but South Bucks (where our vote fell from 22 to 15). Its centre is the town of Beaconsfield. Perhaps not surprising as Disraeli when he was granted a peerage chose to be called Lord Beaconsfield.
May 29, 2019 at 8:32 am #187066ZJWParticipantALB:
‘Oxford, the capital of Remainia (it voted 67% for the Remain parties), which last time was No 1, is way down at equal tenth with Canterbury and Runnymede.’
What was the percentage for Oxford last time?
May 29, 2019 at 8:49 am #187067ALBKeymasterLast time in 2014 it was 221 votes (0.56%). This time it’s 83 (0.18%). A huge drop due, in my view, to many of those who voted for us last time wanting to vote Remain or at least against Brexit this time, either Green or even Liberal. Another factor might be that 2014 was pre-Corbyn and some might have voted Labour.
May 29, 2019 at 9:36 am #187083imposs1904ParticipantDo you have the actual numbers? My eyes glaze over percentages.
May 29, 2019 at 11:26 am #187086PartisanZParticipantI am not sure about votes for the main parties being marked up, or translated as, for the ‘Remain’ camp. They are not all arrogant treacherous, assholes like Campbell. Votes for SNP, for example, will be mixed pro and anti Brexit and for Labour or Tory’s similar, but loyal to their respective parties, warts and all, in the main.
May 29, 2019 at 2:50 pm #187138ALBKeymasterOK, Imposs, here’s the numbers:
Hastings: 77 out of 24,473
Folkestone & Hythe: 75 out of 32,417
Basingstoke: 155 out of 48,566
Dover: 74 out of 33,523
Reading: 83 out of 40,428
Runnymede: 39 out of 21,062
Southampton: 103 out of 53,847
Oxford: 83 out of 45,141
South Bucks: 15 out of 20, 885
Talking of Oxford, I know of at least one person who voted for us last time and for Labour this time and of two who voted for us both times but in between voted Leave. Make what you will of all that.
May 30, 2019 at 9:35 am #187531AnonymousInactiveAnother 39 information packs were sent off yesterday, overwhelmingly as a result of our election manifesto which was recently inserted into the South edition of the i newspaper. This brings to well in excess of 150 enquiries received by various means. Over 90% opted for the 3 free Socialist Standard offer.
On a related note a new series of adverts are now appearing in the Big Issue. Here’s the one from the North edition.
May 30, 2019 at 9:37 am #187532JClark96ParticipantWould that be in the big issue it I buy it off a vendor today?
May 30, 2019 at 9:57 am #187533AnonymousInactive“Would that be in the big issue it I buy it off a vendor today?”
Possibly, but the ad appears in alternate issues so it’s best to check first it’s in the issue you’re buying, if you can. The ads are also different depending on the region and the one in the South West edition is larger than those in the London/South/Midlands/North editions.
May 30, 2019 at 10:56 am #187534Bijou DrainsParticipantAdvertised right next to a picture of a Twin necked Gibson EDS 1275. The “coolest guitar in rock” right next to the “coolest party in politics”. What’s the odds of that.
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