Green Light for Greenland?
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January 17, 2026 at 1:13 pm #262453
robbo203
ParticipantAnother reason besides minerals for Trump´s imperialist ambitions – AI data centres:
“Greenland’s cold climate, large landmass and small population make it an appealing alternative. Drew Horn, a former Trump official focused on Greenland, told Fox News last year: “It’s literally the best place in the world for data centers.”
January 17, 2026 at 5:52 pm #262457robbo203
ParticipantMindboggling. Looks like the Orange One is serious about Greenland
Donald Trump has announced tariffs on the UK and other European countries for their opposition to a US takeover of Greenland.
The US president posted on Truth Social on
Saturday that a 10 per cent tariff on all goods sent to the US would be imposed from Feb 1 on Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands and Finland, before being increased to 25 per cent on June 1.He accused the countries of creating a “very dangerous situation for the Safety, Security, and Survival of our Planet” after they sent a small contingent of troops to Greenland to help Denmark prepare military exercises.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/01/17/trump-to-impose-tariffs-on-britain-over-greenland/
January 17, 2026 at 7:49 pm #262458robbo203
ParticipantAccording to this piece, Canada is forging closer ties with China, “which threatens to upset the existing relationship with the United States”.
“President Donald Trump is preparing to counter Chinese influence in Canada as his ‘Donroe Doctrine’ for the Western Hemisphere expands beyond Latin America, his former campaign architect Steve Bannon has told the Daily Mail. ‘The next big thing is going to be Canada. Canada is the next Ukraine because they can’t defend their northern arctic border and China is going to come take a bite,’ former White House chief strategist Bannon said. ‘They can’t defend it and Trump is going to come in hard on Canada.’ During his first term, Trump formed an Arctic working group that deepened his understanding of Greenland’s geo-strategic importance—and highlighted concerns about Canada’s Arctic vulnerabilities.
January 18, 2026 at 9:36 am #262463Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantThe last economic report has shown that China surpassed the US in industrial production and has an export surplus of over 1.5 trillion dollars.
The Yankees ‘ empire is getting desperate because it is losing its world hegemony, and its influence is declining around the world.
The mobsters and mafia threats are not working
January 19, 2026 at 4:14 pm #262474robbo203
ParticipantTrump’s latest missive on X today, proving if nothing else, what a complete narcissist he is (“buhwwwaaa, gimme gimme gimme a nobel peace prize” LOL):
“NEW:
@potus
letter to
@jonasgahrstore
links
@NobelPrize
to Greenland, reiterates threats, and is forwarded by the NSC staff to multiple European ambassadors in Washington. I obtained the text from multiple officials:Dear Ambassador:
President Trump has asked that the following message, shared with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, be forwarded to your [named head of government/state]
“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”
January 20, 2026 at 4:59 pm #262479robbo203
ParticipantI think the world is going bonkers. This is why I wouldnt trust what the media says further than I can spit.
In his piece for the Daily Mail, he further added: “And, in this instance, to show our intent – that means being open to the prospect of European forces fighting a ground war against the US in Greenland.”
Seriously?
FFS
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January 21, 2026 at 1:12 am #262484Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantTrump is showing the real face of US and world capitalism. They are not wearing the masks of freedom, democracy, people’s liberation, human rights, international law, and the country of the melting pot. As someone wrote on Facebook: He is doing a favor to mankind by showing the real nature of capitalism
As a declining empire, the us is becoming desperate; it is desperately seeking world recognition, losing its old allies, and they are inclining toward China and Russia, which are encroaching on their spheres of influence and the global market; its international commercial cartels are being replaced by new ones, and they are being controlled by their competitors. Higher output of commodities, and probably the US currency will be replaced, as some countries are trading with their own currencies. They do not need divisas
They are making false promises to the workers that they will come back to an old world that will not come back again. Based on the so-called movement of Make America Great Again, it was great for the capitalist class, and it is getting better for the capitalist class. The real slogan is Make America White Again and the white workers were also exploited like the blacks and the latinos
They have lost their industrial strength, and the world monopoly of its commodieties, their standard of living has drastically declined ( blamed on the foreign workers ), all social democrats’ reforms and benefits have been reversed ( blamed on the foreign workers too ), and the pos war boom is gone, and the debt of the capitalist class is getting higher, and the military spending is also getting higher.
Poverty, hunger, misery, and unemployment are spreading all over, and the parasite class is getting richer, while the producer class is getting poor
The capitalist class does not need their pawns, known as politicians; they can run the show by themselves, the president and the Congress are only decorative figures. His bravado are not scaring the leaders of other countries; on the contrary, they arerejectingd h. The European Union called him the demented conman.
German economists just published a report showing that his claim on tariffs is just a lie, and that only 4% of the exporters are paying the tariff, and 96% of the consumers are paying an additional sales tax, and tariffs are one of the pillars of his administrationThe workers wanted a white businessman, and they got him. He is running a country like a corporation, and now the workers are abandoning his ship
January 21, 2026 at 9:01 am #262485ALB
KeymasterA contribution to the debate as to why the U.S. government wants to annexe Greenland:
January 21, 2026 at 10:35 am #262486Roberto
ParticipantThe US interest in Greenland isn’t symbolic or eccentric — it follows the normal logic of great-power competition under capitalism.
Greenland has major strategic value. It occupies a key military position between North America and Europe, hosts critical US radar and defence infrastructure, and gives access to the Arctic as melting ice opens new shipping routes. Control of that region means military advantage and geopolitical leverage.
There is also the issue of resources. Greenland contains significant reserves of rare earth minerals and other strategic materials essential for modern industry and military technology. Securing access to these resources benefits powerful corporations and strengthens national economic power.
At the same time, the US wants to block rivals such as China and Russia from expanding influence in the Arctic. This is not about democracy or concern for Greenlanders — it is about power, profit, and strategic dominance.
Greenland, like many places around the world, becomes a pawn in conflicts between rival capitalist states. The real issue is not which power controls Greenland, but the fact that under capitalism land, resources, and people are treated as assets in geopolitical competition rather than as part of a shared human inheritance.January 21, 2026 at 4:13 pm #262488robbo203
ParticipantSo Trump has now come out and declared at the WEF forum that he won’t take Greenland by military force. That was not unexpected, even though he previously declined to rule it out. The stakes were just too high even for a crazed narcissistic nutjob like him, who mostly seems to live in some alternative universe
Trump criticized U.S. leaders at the time for relinquishing the Danish-held territory, calling his predecessors “stupid” for doing so and accusing Copenhagen of being “ungrateful” in return.
He also said the U.S. would be “unstoppable” in any attempt to seize the island but disclaimed any interest in doing so.
“I don’t want to use force. I won’t use force. All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland … It’s the United States alone that can protect this giant mass of land, this giant piece of ice, develop it and improve it and make it so that it’s good for Europe and safe for Europe and good for us,” Trump said.
The “markets” had earlier signalled their displeasure with Trump with a drop in the indices. Probably also the realisation that a military takeover of Greenland would, indeed, spell the end of NATO led him to make this statement.
Nevertheless, you can’t really tell with Trump. He seems no less determined to acquire Greenland on behalf of American capitalism but equally, Greenland, Denmark and Europe seem no less determined to resist this.
So we have a stalemate and the prospect of yet more uncertainty
January 22, 2026 at 9:49 pm #262508Ciudadano Del Mundo
Participant77 millions peoples voted for this asshole
January 23, 2026 at 1:15 am #262509Roberto
ParticipantPeople didn’t vote for Trump because they suddenly became evil or irrational. They voted out of frustration, fear, habit, lack of alternatives, or because the entire political system limits the choice to rival managers of capitalism. Elections under capitalism are not about workers choosing their own interests, but about choosing which faction of the ruling class governs.
The problem isn’t “stupid voters.”
The problem is a political system that never offers a real alternative to capitalism.January 23, 2026 at 3:57 am #262510Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantI know that, but for 250 years they American workers have done the same thing, it is already time to learn. My grandfather who was not an intelectual knew all that, he knew that the Soviet Union was a capitalist country, and he knew that WW 2 was a conflict among thieves, he never bent over to the capitalsit class His only source of information was a shortwave radio. Millions of peasants in other geographic area have taken class consciousness and they have had limited source of information. I knew Isaac Wood who was a hillbilly and he never bend over, and he was a Korean hero and he returned all his medal when he obtained class consciousness, he was not racist, he was not nationalist either, his friend was harassed by some of his coworkers telling him that he was brain washed by the communists, and he said that he should have been brainwashed when he was born. There was one American presidential candidate who did not support war and workers voted for a warmonger, a criminal and a racist person
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January 23, 2026 at 11:58 am #262512Roberto
ParticipantIt’s true that class consciousness is possible even under difficult conditions. History gives many examples of workers with little formal education who nevertheless understood that capitalism, nationalism and war serve ruling-class interests. Those individuals deserve real respect.
But the existence of conscious workers does not mean we can simply blame the majority for “not learning fast enough.” Consciousness does not develop in a vacuum. People are shaped by their material conditions, their education, the media they are exposed to, and the political choices they are offered. Under capitalism, all of those forces systematically push people toward nationalism, reformism, fear, and resignation — not toward socialist understanding.
The fact that some workers break through that conditioning proves that socialism is possible.
The fact that most do not yet do so shows how powerful the system of ideological control really is.
It is also worth remembering that workers are never offered a genuine socialist choice at election time. They are asked to choose between rival managers of capitalism. When a population repeatedly votes for pro-war candidates, that reflects the poverty of political options, not some inherent failure of the working class.
Socialism has never been about admiring the few who “see clearly” and condemning the rest. It is about building understanding patiently, recognising that emancipation must be collective or it will not happen at all.January 23, 2026 at 2:12 pm #262513Roberto
ParticipantFrom a socialist perspective, social change does not unfold according to the lifespan of individuals. The transformation of one mode of production into another is a historical process that often stretches across generations. Even Marx, writing when global capitalism was still in its infancy, understood that he would not live to see a socialist society. His work was not based on personal hope of witnessing the outcome, but on an analysis of historical development.
Today, our situation is even more uncertain. Humanity now possesses the capacity for total self-destruction through nuclear weapons. A future world war would not be a “third” war in the old sense — it would likely be the last. This adds a tragic urgency to the question of social change.
Yet from a socialist standpoint, this does not justify despair. As long as humanity continues to exist, the struggle for a world beyond capitalism remains both necessary and possible. The task is not to predict whether we will personally witness socialism, but to contribute — however modestly — to the growth of understanding that makes it achievable.
Paraphrasing Gramsci, this means combining pessimism of the intellect with optimism of the will: recognising clearly the dangers and limits of our time, while refusing to abandon the commitment to human emancipation.` -
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