Good article from Selina Todd

November 2023 Forums General discussion Good article from Selina Todd

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    Ozymandias
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    rodshaw
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    I agree, a good article.I like the comment by MrsBoggitt too – gives the lie to the notion that people aren't prepared to work voluntarily, and makes the comment that some jobs that used to be paid are now done for nothing.If we take Todd's figure of 70% as being more or less correct for people who identify themselves as working class, then we have hope of appealing to a majority even discounting the so-called middle class. I think this may be important, because many of the top 30 percent or so will be too complacent or will see socialism as taking 'everything they've worked for' away, even though they're not in the capitalist class.This is where I sometimes think our frequent comparison of the top 2 or 3 percent with the poorest can be a little flaky. Of course socialism will (hopefully) benefit all but it could well be a lot harder to convince the most well-to-do 'workers' that they'll be better off without their biggish incomes and accumulated savings, and the social status that often goes with them.

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    ALB
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    Yes, the term "hard working families", introduced by Labour (Gordon Brown used it a lot), is part of the rhetoric aimed at demonising those on benefits, i.e who don't work. Unfortunately, it does seem to have worked to large extent to split the working class by getting one section to blame the other instead of capitalism for their problems,

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