From Capitalism to Socialism. . . how we live and how we could live

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    zhengenbin
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    A socialist society or a communist society is a stateless, classless, moneyless  and familyless society. And most importantly, a communist society or a socialist society is familyless society(familyless society). Therefore, the realization of a socialist society or a communist society is not dependent on the seizure of power. Because you can't force people into a familyless society.

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    zhengenbin wrote:
    A socialist society or a communist society is a stateless, classless, moneyless  and familyless society. And most importantly, a communist society or a socialist society is familyless society(familyless society). Therefore, the realization of a socialist society or a communist society is not dependent on the seizure of power. Because you can't force people into a familyless society.

     I am curious about your reasoning for saying this,  zhengenbin What makes you think the family as an insititution will disappear in socialism?  Granted the form  that the family takes may be radically different from today but that does not necessarily entail the disappearance of the insitition per se.    Also forcing its disappearnce would be somewhat inconsistent with your suggestion that we should not use force to establish socialism. On this latter point, the problem is that the capitalist class maintains it monopoly ownership of the productive resources of society by force – by means of the state.  Surely that means that to make these resources the common property of everyone (socialism) we have to deprive them of that very force they use to maintain the status quo.  And that surely means capturng the politcal state ourselves (by democratic means) in order to strip the capitalists of their monopoly ownership which , once accomplished, will make the very insitituion of the state itself redundant. If you mean by "force", violence,  then I tend to agree that this would not be necessary and may even be counterproductive.  But force does not have to mean violence – it could also mean,simply,  social pressure or complusion – and it is this latter sense that I think that force will definitely be needed to establish socialism.  I cant see any other way….

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