Extinction Rebellion

October 2022 Forums General discussion Extinction Rebellion

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  • #222142
    alanjjohnstone
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    4. We will consider the impact of COP26 and of our actions on the people of Glasgow. We will consult with potentially affected communities, and avoid taking actions that disproportionately disrupt the daily lives of marginalised groups, including people of colour, disabled people, working class people, those living with poverty and homelessness, and migrants and refugees that now call Glasgow home.

    XR Scotland’s COP26 Rebel Agreement

    Just how is this going to happen? Their website doesn’t offer a process.

    #222540
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    A train-wreck of a TV appearance by Insulate Britain spokesperson

    #223054
    james19
    Participant

    “1% of people cause 50% of aviation pollution”

    Farnborough airport has 30,000 private flights a year, each with an average of 2.3 passengers, each passenger responsible for emitting 20x more carbon than passengers on an economy flight to🇪🇸

    Farnborough airport has permission to expand to 50,000 private flights a year 😱

    Farnborough Airport entrances blocked by protesters https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-57858103

    #223491
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Looks as if the workers are beginning to fight back against what the Daily Mail, not entirely unfairly, calls “the hated eco-mob”.

    #223828
    ALB
    Keymaster

    The fightback against the “hated ecomob” escalates.

    #223832
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I note that Insulate Britain’s main complaint is that they aren’t getting to go to prison (which was the original XR intention) and they see this as a conspiracy by the government to avoid having “ecological political” prisoners during COP26.

    I hope that the stunts of the eco-activists at COP26 don’t go wrong. I still recall that the 2005 Gleneagles and Make Poverty History protests were forgotten about soon as those bombs went off.

    #223843
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Extinction Rebellion say they are planning high impact “deliberate disruption” during the COP26 summit.

    Extinction Rebellion uses what it calls “non-violent direct action” to call on leaders to take urgent action on the climate emergency.

    Its activists say they are prepared to be arrested.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-59071603

    Sturgeon has urged protesters not to disrupt the daily lives of Glasgow residents.

    Sadly for us, it won’t all be boastful talk

    Police will have 10,000 officers on duty every day during COP26.

    #223849
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I know the media are speculating that IB are aiming to embarrass the government by being in prison at the time of COPOUT 26. Maybe, but it could also be part of the original XR theory to get to the 3.5% tipping point at which they believe a civil disobedience movement can succeed. People go to prison, get public support and more volunteers come forth, more go to prison and so on.

    That could be the strategy of the IB leaders but many in the rank and file seem to be deluded christians with a martyr-complex taking orders from their imaginary god. They probably won’t mind being sent to prison or even beaten up by angry motorists. In fact they probably welcome this as a way of testing and affirming their “faith”.

    The ironic thing is that what they are demanding of the government would make hardly any difference to global warming as the contribution to this from not properly isolated houses in an island of 65 million people off the north west coast of the Eurasian land mass will be fairly minimal.

    #223862
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Now they are employing the language of right-wing populism:

    Liam Norton from Insulate Britain said: “In a couple of days COP 26 will start in Glasgow and the eyes of the world will be on this country. Britain should be leading the world with radical plans to decarbonise our society.

    “What we have instead is a budget that is yet another act of treason by this government upon its own people. It is a plan that facilitates mass murder. The citizens of this country should be in open revolt. We need change and we need it quickly.

    “It is clear that this Government has no intention of getting on with the job that they were elected to do. No intention of protecting the country from climate collapse. Our children’s futures have been trashed. Our country sold out.

    “We have been betrayed by the traitors now in power. We ask all decent ordinary people to join us, to rise up and take part in nonviolent civil resistance against tyranny.”

    Politicians are not solving the problem of global warming and climate change because they are traitors, but because they have to operate within the capitalist economic system that puts profits first and is geared to endless growth (accumulation of capital).They are not solving it because they can’t.

    The electors have set them an impossible task — and so have Insulate Britain.

    #223864
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    Is Extinction Revolution the greatest example of the futility and absurdness of reformism?

    #223865
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Martyrdom borne out of frustration and desperation, perhaps BD. Christians wanting to be thrown to the lions?

    As some know, I have sympathy for spectacles and stunts, clever examples of agit-prop.

    Civil disobedience can be one strategy and Fridays for Future and Greta Thunberg showed the better alternative. They protested at the banking centres in London for an end to financing fossil fuels yesterday.

    They chose a more deserving target to demonstrate against, one that has more complicity in environmental crimes, one that lacks public support and one which has minimal disruption to our fellow-workers.

    Getting the message that capitalism albeit only the symbolic banking ogre is the greater threat to the planet is a more worthy objective, IMHO.

    https://www.channel4.com/news/climate-protesters-target-banks-ahead-of-cop26

    #224388
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Now that COP26 is finished the courts begin sending Insulate Britain protesters to prison.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/17/nine-insulate-britain-activists-jailed-for-breach-of-road-blockades-injunction

    The judge said, “The defendants, or some of them, seem to want to be martyrs for their cause and the media campaign surrounding this hearing appears designed to suggest this…”

    Tracey Mallaghan, a spokesperson for the group, said: “A few hundred people captured the country’s attention for months. Think what 1,000 people can achieve? You have a choice. To act, to come and join us help change the tide of history, or to be a bystander and be complicit in enabling genocide.”

    #224389
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I think it is more a question of them sending themselves to prison, but who cares if that’s what they want. They seem to be consenting adults.

    “Betrayed by my government” — what a pathetic slogan. It shows that they are still nationalists and are appealing to people who are still nationalists. Talk about the blind misleading the blind.

    #224390

    Now they are employing the language of right-wing populism

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    That is totally correct. The article written by Adam Buick on Fascism is a very well description of what is taking place in regard to the popularity of right wing populism, it is due to the failure of the left wings, and the right wings have used their failures to take control of the state apparatus. Right wings create the slogan and the conspiracist theory and the left adopt them as their own creation.

    PD: A Spanish translation of the same article has been published on the WSM website

    #224394

    Martyrdom borne out of frustration and desperation, perhaps BD. Christians wanting to be thrown to the lions?

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    The concept of Martyr and Martyrdom comes from the Roman Christians, and Neron was not the arsonist of Rome

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