Do We Need the Dialectic?
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November 23, 2013 at 6:35 pm #97834
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ParticipantNo, you won't be able to 'buy' a packet of fags. Ken MacLeod in one of his books gave an instance of where capitalist sympathisers were allowed to have a flea market where they could pretend still to have capitalism. You could do that if it was firmly contained, suppressed, and emphasised the brokenness of capitalism. That's what dictatorship of the proletariat means. In short, if you asked to buy a packet of fags we should demand all the money that you have. We should then burn that money and give you a packet of fags for nothing. Simon W.
November 27, 2013 at 7:32 pm #97835jondwhite
ParticipantHere's a podcast about Karl Popper on Philosophy and Sciencehttp://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com/2013/09/24/ep82-popper/
Quote:What is science, and how is it different than pseudo-science? From philosophy? Is philosophy just pseudo-science, or proto-science, or what? Popper thinks that all legitimate inquiry is about solving real problems, and scientific theories are those that are potentially falsifiable: they make definitely predictions about the world that, if these fail to be true, would show that the theory is false.With this idea, Popper thinks he’s achieved a real respect for objectivity and beaten the epistemologists of the past, both empiricists (who think the ultimate source of knowledge is experience) and rationalists (who think that it’s reason). For Popper, there is no such infallible source. We approach nature with expectations: we leap to a theory with little if any warrant (the “conjectures”) and then we modify it when it fails us (“refutations”). Modify, not reject: really, the most powerful force in knowledge is tradition, so long as that tradition is open to critique.November 27, 2013 at 7:48 pm #97836DJP
ParticipantQuote:Popper thinks that all legitimate inquiry is about solving real problems, and scientific theories are those that are potentially falsifiable: they make definitely predictions about the world that, if these fail to be true, would show that the theory is false.He did but it turned out to be more complicated than that. See Kuhn, Quine and others…Speaking of podcats a recent and fairly informative episode of in our time was about Wittengenstien, seeing as he was mentined earlier.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0054945
November 27, 2013 at 8:12 pm #97837Morgenstern
ParticipantPodcats. Now *that* sounds like the start of an interesting discussion. Simon W.
December 13, 2024 at 8:44 am #255679ZJW
ParticipantRe Alan’s https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/topic/do-we-need-the-dialectic/page/25/#post-97766 above from 11 years ago, this professor Lanza has just co-written — as vehicle for his views — a science-fiction novel with Nancy Kress.
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