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October 2024 Forums General discussion Climate change

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  • #189168
    ALB
    Keymaster

    The papers are reporting today on anti-climate demonstrators with a banner (and presumably sloganizing) “No Borders, No  Nations. No Gas Power Stations”. Clearly this can’t be Extinction Rebellion as they merely want national governments remove to adopt more drastic anti-emission measures.

    It seems to be a new group Reclaim the Power which sounds like the old Reclaim the Streets rebranded. They do at least bring capitalism in to it:

    We Need to Talk about Capitalism.   Climate change and environmental collapse are the products of an economic system based on infinite growth on a planet of finite resources, on colonial plundering and on the many inequalities of a class based system. The fight for climate justice cannot be removed from this social and economic context.”

    True, except that in practice they do. And they overlook the fact that direct action by Reclaim the Streets didn’t succeed in stopping a single motorway or by-pass. I wonder what happened to Swampy.

    #189169
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I never associated Swampy and other eco-warriors with Reclaim the Streets.

    RTS endeavoured  to merge the trade union movement and the Liverpool Dockers with themselves to try and form a more radical alliance and were not they also the first signs of the WRP mutating from their doctrinaire roots.

    I went with my union to one London march. But ended up alongside the anarchist contingent, at least until the pub.

    This open letter was published by ourselves

    An Open Letter to ‘Reclaim the Streets’

    #189173
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Interesting  we have different recollections of RTS. You remember the march they had with the Liverpool dockers. I remember their anti-motorway actions. We’re both right, according to their Wikipedia entry.

    In the meantime Simon Wigley has gone reformist.

    #189174
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    When I went to wiki, I saw a slogan that we could appropriate (going back to an earlier exchange)

    “Reclaim the Future” – We could simply say “Claim the Future” to use as our slogan to bring the positive tone of your hope to my despondency

    #189175
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I never did hear a report on the meeting Simon was to hold with one of the London branches…

    As for Swampy, I did read one fairly recent item on him…but it is vague memory so don’t quote me…living in in a commune in Wales, working as a forester and still active but anonymously so that his “infamy” doesn’t distract from the issues…

    #189177
    PartisanZ
    Participant

    I found this ingenious response to local conditions arising out of poverty in one Argentinian area.

    Using Renewable Energy and the Circular Economy to Fight Poverty in Argentina

    #189185
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster
    #189188
    ALB
    Keymaster

    What is noticeable about this is not so much Carney’s view that capitalism is part of the socialism or his remark that “there will be great fortunes made along this path aligned with what society wants” (true, there will be profits to be made from measures to deal with climate change) but what the Extinction Rebellion’s spokesperson says. Comment on this is more appropriate in the thread on them (which I forgot was still extant when I posted the Reclaim the Power thing here).

    #189196
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    And now, to rival and supersede the West, Russia and China are talking about massive infrastructure and development of Eurasia, based, of course, on competition (see Peter Levelle, Cross Talk, RT). Climate change  has barely begun!

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