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July 31, 2019 at 10:17 am #189168ALBKeymaster
The papers are reporting today on anti-climate demonstrators with a banner (and presumably sloganizing) “No Borders, No Nations. No Gas Power Stations”. Clearly this can’t be Extinction Rebellion as they merely want national governments remove to adopt more drastic anti-emission measures.
It seems to be a new group Reclaim the Power which sounds like the old Reclaim the Streets rebranded. They do at least bring capitalism in to it:
“We Need to Talk about Capitalism. Climate change and environmental collapse are the products of an economic system based on infinite growth on a planet of finite resources, on colonial plundering and on the many inequalities of a class based system. The fight for climate justice cannot be removed from this social and economic context.”
True, except that in practice they do. And they overlook the fact that direct action by Reclaim the Streets didn’t succeed in stopping a single motorway or by-pass. I wonder what happened to Swampy.
July 31, 2019 at 12:46 pm #189169alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI never associated Swampy and other eco-warriors with Reclaim the Streets.
RTS endeavoured to merge the trade union movement and the Liverpool Dockers with themselves to try and form a more radical alliance and were not they also the first signs of the WRP mutating from their doctrinaire roots.
I went with my union to one London march. But ended up alongside the anarchist contingent, at least until the pub.
This open letter was published by ourselves
July 31, 2019 at 8:36 pm #189173ALBKeymasterInteresting we have different recollections of RTS. You remember the march they had with the Liverpool dockers. I remember their anti-motorway actions. We’re both right, according to their Wikipedia entry.
In the meantime Simon Wigley has gone reformist.
July 31, 2019 at 8:49 pm #189174alanjjohnstoneKeymasterWhen I went to wiki, I saw a slogan that we could appropriate (going back to an earlier exchange)
“Reclaim the Future” – We could simply say “Claim the Future” to use as our slogan to bring the positive tone of your hope to my despondency
July 31, 2019 at 8:59 pm #189175alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI never did hear a report on the meeting Simon was to hold with one of the London branches…
As for Swampy, I did read one fairly recent item on him…but it is vague memory so don’t quote me…living in in a commune in Wales, working as a forester and still active but anonymously so that his “infamy” doesn’t distract from the issues…
July 31, 2019 at 9:25 pm #189177PartisanZParticipantI found this ingenious response to local conditions arising out of poverty in one Argentinian area.
Using Renewable Energy and the Circular Economy to Fight Poverty in Argentina
August 1, 2019 at 1:26 am #189185alanjjohnstoneKeymasterTrust capitalism to fix climate change
August 1, 2019 at 8:18 am #189188ALBKeymasterWhat is noticeable about this is not so much Carney’s view that capitalism is part of the socialism or his remark that “there will be great fortunes made along this path aligned with what society wants” (true, there will be profits to be made from measures to deal with climate change) but what the Extinction Rebellion’s spokesperson says. Comment on this is more appropriate in the thread on them (which I forgot was still extant when I posted the Reclaim the Power thing here).
August 1, 2019 at 10:21 am #189196AnonymousInactiveAnd now, to rival and supersede the West, Russia and China are talking about massive infrastructure and development of Eurasia, based, of course, on competition (see Peter Levelle, Cross Talk, RT). Climate change has barely begun!
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