Capitalism’s animal holocaust continues.

November 2022 Forums General discussion Capitalism’s animal holocaust continues.

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  • #230117
    Thomas_More
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    Humans are killing more than that every day.
    What do you propose we do with the cats?
    Domesticated cats have been pets since Ancient Egypt.

    #230123
    alanjjohnstone
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    TM, I once long ago submitted an article on pet ownership for the Standard which was rejected by the editors. Too controversial with its criticism of it, I believe was the reason given.

    The carbon paw-print of cats and dogs is as detrimental to the planet as livestock farming. You can Google the facts.

    What do we do with cats and dogs?

    I am not suggesting a mass extermination cull but that the custom of keeping pets is discouraged. You know all about the cruelty of puppy-farming for profit, not to mention the ill-health of many pedigree designer breeds of dogs, satisfying fads and fashions.

    I have suggested that rather than unsustainable meat-eating pets (yes, I know we now have vegan-diet dogs nowadays), for the psychological and emotional attachment pets offer humans in terms of companionship, vegetarian pets such as rabbits and guinea-pigs can replace them if need be. And I had a friend who swore by keeping a budgie.

    I speculate that because today loneliness and isolation are real social problems, however, socialism fosters increased community, we can perhaps foresee less reliance on dogs as man’s best friend. Same with the reason we can expect the many elderly “cat-women” that exist under capitalism will dwindle.

    I live in a country where some vets are better equipped with diagnostic and treatment technology than many local health clinics. And the money vets make is not in the welfare of farm animals but pampered pets.

    When I was a lad, a vet was not shy about saying the cost of keeping a sick animal alive was not worth it, but with the growth in insurance pet plans, I myself was offered weekly kidney dialysis for an elderly dog. (I had no insurance, however, and I think a parallel can be made with private dentist practices now replacing NHS because of the insurance industry)

    Disclaimer. I have two dogs and one cat presently

    #230128
    Thomas_More
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    I agree that the pet industry’s disappearance would be a good thing, as speciesism declines following the socialist revolution.
    However, aren’t you forgetting (?) that dogs, humans and cats are animals who have gravitated together since prehistory, especially the first two.

    I have been researching incidents in history that show the powerful love of dogs for their human friends, and innumerable cases abound that show the same between other animals and humans, and between other species without humans.

    Why should the fading of the pet-keeping phenomenon, and the disappearance of exploitative relationships rule out any relationship between humans and members of other species, without ownership and exploitation?

    Relationships with other humans will be freed from the ugliness, competitiveness and bullying of today, but even so: would you really want no sharing and no friendship with other fellow animals?

    #230131
    Thomas_More
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    Not all humans who keep company with nonhumans do so because they are lonely, or inadequate in human relationships.
    Those I have known who do not share life with other animals are frequently cold people, neurotically obsessive with cleaning and disdainful of other humans too.
    Children reach out naturally to other animal life, and we don’t question surrounding the youngest of us with fluffy toys in the shape of other animals. It would be questioned if some parent didn’t.
    As capitalism blights our lives and crushes the natural out of us with age, we become alienated from both other humans and other animals, and many of us turn our rage on those weaker than us – such as pets, children, and gentle humans who are “not hard enough.”

    #230198
    alanjjohnstone
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    #230266
    alanjjohnstone
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    https://www.dw.com/en/why-do-humans-eat-so-much-meat/a-60735141

    “Those theories originated 50, 60 years ago, when people were under the mistaken impression that meat was somehow more nutritious than plant foods. That was a grotesquely false misconception that people used to have, that there are only certain amino acids that you could get from animal tissue. That is flatly not true,”

    #230501
    alanjjohnstone
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61799718

    Vets say don’t buy bulldog type breed dogs for pets

    #230503
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Approximately 20 million chickens, 330,000 pigs and 166,000 cattle are dead on arrival, or soon after, at abattoirs in the US every year, analysis of publicly available data shows. A further 800,000 pigs are calculated to be unable to walk on arrival. The main causes were likely to be heat stress, especially during the summer months, and freezing temperatures and trauma.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/15/more-than-20-million-farm-animals-die-on-way-to-abattoir-in-us-every-year

    #230530
    alanjjohnstone
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    The pet industry values profit more than caring for pets

    The Seresto flea and tick collar received EPA approval in 2012 and was introduced to the market in 2013. Since then, Bayer—the original brand owner of the collar—and Elanco—which purchased the product in 2020, have sold more than 30 million collars. Pet owners embraced the convenience of the product, which provides 8 months of flea and tick protection for dogs and cats for under $70, and which is widely sold by pet specialty stores, online pet pharmacies, and large online retailers.

    The Subcommittee launched its investigation into the collars in March 2021, following the publication of an investigative report which revealed that, as of June 2020, there had been more than 75,000 incidents and approximately 1,700 pet deaths linked to the Seresto collar. Since then, the reported numbers have increased to more than 98,000 incidents and 2,500 pet deaths.

    https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-subcommittee-report-reveals-epa-failed-to-protect-pets-owners-from

    #230712
    alanjjohnstone
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    #230715
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    Mink are slaughtered so women can have false eyelashes.

    #230830
    Thomas_More
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    #231103
    Thomas_More
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    There was no first human.

    #231105
    Thomas_More
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    We are African apes.

    #231369
    alanjjohnstone
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    A million UK chickens ‘die needlessly each week to keep prices low’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/16/a-million-uk-chickens-die-needlessly-each-week-to-keep-prices-low

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